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Mack Rhoades on several topics
Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:13 am
Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:13 am
I'm sure most of you have read articles on it, but here is Matter's coverage. Some highlights:
Praised Cox and women's hoops. Said the seasons in football and hoops not acceptable.
Regarding boycott...steps taken to avoid that happening again.
However, pledges and donations are up from last year, same time period, despite a shite season.
Have had open conversations with recruits and parents but not aware of anyone refusing to come because of boycott.
“I told him at the end of next year we can’t feel like we’re still three our four years away from having real progress for our basketball program to be relevant.”
Season ticket renewals at 75%, down from last year but better than after our last shite season.
Rhoades said Mizzou has probably not done enough to support its baseball program to make it more competitive in the SEC, though among his first moves last year were increasing the staff salary and travel budgets. With the Tigers below .500 and on a seven-game losing streak, Rhoades said he’ll sit down with coach Tim Jamieson after the season and evaluate the program and its future.
There will be no facility south of the Memorial Stadium. MU is in the process of reviewing five concepts for a few football team facility and all five options are located on the west side of Providence Boulevard on the land where the current Mizzou Athletics Training Center resides.
Praised Cox and women's hoops. Said the seasons in football and hoops not acceptable.
Regarding boycott...steps taken to avoid that happening again.
However, pledges and donations are up from last year, same time period, despite a shite season.
Have had open conversations with recruits and parents but not aware of anyone refusing to come because of boycott.
“I told him at the end of next year we can’t feel like we’re still three our four years away from having real progress for our basketball program to be relevant.”
Season ticket renewals at 75%, down from last year but better than after our last shite season.
Rhoades said Mizzou has probably not done enough to support its baseball program to make it more competitive in the SEC, though among his first moves last year were increasing the staff salary and travel budgets. With the Tigers below .500 and on a seven-game losing streak, Rhoades said he’ll sit down with coach Tim Jamieson after the season and evaluate the program and its future.
There will be no facility south of the Memorial Stadium. MU is in the process of reviewing five concepts for a few football team facility and all five options are located on the west side of Providence Boulevard on the land where the current Mizzou Athletics Training Center resides.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:40 am to reedus23
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There will be no facility south of the Memorial Stadium. MU is in the process of reviewing five concepts for a few football team facility and all five options are located on the west side of Providence Boulevard on the land where the current Mizzou Athletics Training Center resides.
What a shame. IMO the South End Zone expansion was going to be the signature jewel of the stadium renovation.
And that it's still in the review stage means it's happening later than sooner.
Whether the delay is connected to donor backlash to CS1950 or not, it's not good news in getting the facilities up to speed in the SEC.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 6:50 am to Mizz-SEC
Doesn't sound like it. Sounds like MR places a priority on different renovations first.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 7:10 am to reedus23
That is a very poor decision regarding the South EZ. It's in desperate need of renovation and putting the football facilities there would have killed two birds with one stone.
Stadium still needs A LOT of work. Disappointed to hear none of it will be addressed for quite awhile
Stadium still needs A LOT of work. Disappointed to hear none of it will be addressed for quite awhile
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:20 am to JesusQuintana
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putting the football facilities there would have killed two birds with one stone.
There just isn't any space there. The Gymnastics/Golden Girls facility is right there, along with the maintenance buildings.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:25 am to 5thTiger
If you demo the entire South EZ and build it there it would be.
We don't need a new indoor anyway. It's a poor use of funds. Especially if they are going to demo DP. You'd still have football sharing with the other sports.
We don't need a new indoor anyway. It's a poor use of funds. Especially if they are going to demo DP. You'd still have football sharing with the other sports.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:27 am to JesusQuintana
Mizzou is one of the few SEC schools that doesn't have a full sized indoor practice complex.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 10:25 am to wubilli
There are others that don't, but DP is fine. Especially considering the other issues that need to be addressed that should be higher on the list.
Only true issue with DP is that it's a shared facility and if you demolish it and build a new one it doesn't solve that.
Pinkel and Alden were on the right track. Disappointed to see MR switch gears.
Only true issue with DP is that it's a shared facility and if you demolish it and build a new one it doesn't solve that.
Pinkel and Alden were on the right track. Disappointed to see MR switch gears.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:21 pm to JesusQuintana
I am too. The stadium is so far behind. GP was right when he said there shouldn't be a time that we don't see cranes up over there
Posted on 4/27/16 at 2:54 pm to reedus23
While I like the look of the Mizzou stadium it is a bit behind the times right now. An upgrade would do a lot of good for the program I think.
That having been said... I love the big M y'all have up in the endzone. I'd hate to see it go to turn Missouri into another cookie cutter stadium.
That having been said... I love the big M y'all have up in the endzone. I'd hate to see it go to turn Missouri into another cookie cutter stadium.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 6:56 pm to Arksulli
The M is in the North EZ. The North EZ is at least passable now. I'd like to see some things done, but it's relatively minor.
The South EZ is terrible, and the west side could use some major work. The locker rooms inside the stadium are a joke.
I just can't see building a new IPF, especially since it would still be shared, with all of the above needing a major investment.
Of course, those things will still help with recruiting but you'd get much more bang for your buck if you attached the football facility directly to the south EZ. You could even incorporate a few more suites which there is demand for.
JMO, but I'm just very disappointed that this is now the plan. It's good we are improving facilities but we could and should be doing something a lot more impactful
The South EZ is terrible, and the west side could use some major work. The locker rooms inside the stadium are a joke.
I just can't see building a new IPF, especially since it would still be shared, with all of the above needing a major investment.
Of course, those things will still help with recruiting but you'd get much more bang for your buck if you attached the football facility directly to the south EZ. You could even incorporate a few more suites which there is demand for.
JMO, but I'm just very disappointed that this is now the plan. It's good we are improving facilities but we could and should be doing something a lot more impactful
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:11 am to JesusQuintana
Really disappointing news.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:18 am to SemperFi
The south end needs to be filled in. Thats only way to get rid of the "high school field" look. That and locker rooms.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:47 pm to SemperFi
Right, once again it comes down to money and once again Mizzou is going cheap.
Fully understand that you don't go spending a ton of money you don't have, but if that's the case then you wait until funds are raised to do it correctly.
The more I read of this the worse it sounds. Basically you are rebuilding the MATC and DP. Why? You are going to go spend 20-30M? On a project that really doesn't need to be done but more importantly takes away that money from a project that desperately needs to be done.
Hopefully someone with some influence and some intelligence smacks MR in the back of the head before we break ground on this.
Fully understand that you don't go spending a ton of money you don't have, but if that's the case then you wait until funds are raised to do it correctly.
The more I read of this the worse it sounds. Basically you are rebuilding the MATC and DP. Why? You are going to go spend 20-30M? On a project that really doesn't need to be done but more importantly takes away that money from a project that desperately needs to be done.
Hopefully someone with some influence and some intelligence smacks MR in the back of the head before we break ground on this.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:58 pm to JesusQuintana
Mizzou doesn't have the small to midrange donors to go bigger.
Mizzou has close to the same number of big donors as most SEC schools. Just don't have the people that give between 100 and 5000 a year.
Mizzou has close to the same number of big donors as most SEC schools. Just don't have the people that give between 100 and 5000 a year.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 1:02 pm to wubilli
Just a BTW...it isn't a coincidence that the South EZ and Hearnes projects are being put on hold. Takes major money and donors to do those types of things. Not the annual donors...talking the major donors.
and hint, they aren't very happy right now.
and hint, they aren't very happy right now.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 1:06 pm to wubilli
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Mizzou doesn't have the small to midrange donors to go bigger.
Mizzou has close to the same number of big donors as most SEC schools. Just don't have the people that give between 100 and 5000 a year.
Personally I know a donor who stopped paying +20k a year after the whole protest thing. I cant help to think he's not the only one.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 1:07 pm to 5thTiger
Yet somehow donations are up compared to last year.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 1:21 pm to wubilli
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Yet somehow donations are up compared to last year
Major contributions aren't considered donations in the sense that they are reported. For example, the Paige Sports Arena. "Gifts" from mega-donors do not count as donations, because they don't flow directly through the TSF program.
The "donations are up" is a spin from PR...and yes, that includes the PD and Star.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 4/28/16 at 2:07 pm to 5thTiger
Actually donations to the university as a whole are up when compared to this time last year. Now I'm not sure how the donations from the last fiscal year compare to prior years.
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