I'm watching Wichita State dismantle kU...

You and me both semo. I don't know whether to or to .

I hope KA gets the job done but it will never change the fact I would have preferred to have landed Marshall.

Ok you two. Just go get drunk and be happy they had Self in several meltdowns today and ku fans were crying. I'm glad he's with WSU. We were never close to getting him. But it is a nice dream.

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We were never close to getting him. But it is a nice dream.

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Who knows how it went down.

Money solves lots of problems though

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Didn't solve this one

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You can only make that statement if you know that we were persuing Marshall and were willing to put out that kind of money.

Based on their hiring of Kim fricking Anderson I would say that you could greatly argue either of those points.

Marshall outcoached Bill Self handily, which doesn't happen very often (as much as it pained me to type that).

He cited his son finishing high school in interviews about not leaving Wichita. Not necessarily for mizzou, but in general.

But yeah, he does it with 2 and 3 star recruits. Not "talent" like we have.

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The thing you should take from the WSU/ku game is that experience counts more than talent which is what I tried to express to you earlier this year. Give KA some time to build experience upperclassmen before jumping to conclusions.

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This is partially nonsense and partially bad reasoning. Ron Baker and VanVleet are elite basketball talents. And Baker was huge in the Final Four run two years ago as a sophomore.

There's no one who is saying experience doesn't matter.

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There's no one who is saying experience doesn't matter

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Anyone judging KA's first year is saying experience doesn't matter.

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Anyone judging KA's first year is saying experience doesn't matter.

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Ridiculous again. I can judge his first year and realize it's not the final word on his stint here at Missouri. His first year was awful even taking into account his lack of experience on the team. Watching the last game in the SEC regular season and the tourney and telling me progress was made is ridiculous.

Is that going to be the final word on his career at Mizzou? No. Is it part of his career at Mizzou? Of course it is.

It is funny that you're calling for experience and had no problem with us hiring a coach who had no D1 experience in years.

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It is funny that you're calling for experience and had no problem with us hiring a coach who had no D1 experience in years.

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You make a great point. It takes new D1 coaches a long time to adjust the taller baskets, further free throw lines, etc. also, the rounder basketballs are a huge gamechanger for coaches. coaches just don't get that without D1 experience.

808bass is pretty much spot on. Sure, experience helps, but it definitely is not the defining factor of a teams regular season. For every Wisconsin or Wichita St with experience, there is a Kentucky or Duke with freshman. Pick your poison. But with all 4 of those teams, you have some of the best coaches in college basketball. Either way, there is no reason why we should have had the worst season in school history with our roster.

As for Ron Baker, he was the Otto Porter of kansas. Played at a tiny school (scott city has like 500 people total). That doesn't attract a lot of suitors. He was 6'3" coming out of HS, which isn't an attractive prospect for a kid from a tiny school. He wasn't even ranked by ESPN.

My point is, I think we have those type of guys in Missouri. That is on the coaching staff to find them.

KA doesn't get a pass for this season. I'm not going to generalize based on your opinion of KA, but a "worst season in school history" is a pretty terrible coaching job. Oregon State had a winning record with 7 walk-ons. You can't tell me coaching isn't critical to winning.