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I will not attend another game....
Posted on 9/16/17 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 9/16/17 at 6:00 pm
Until BO and his stinking arse staff is gone. I've been a season ticket holder forever. Sat through the end of the 80's and 90's. I have never been so embarrassed to be a mizzou fan as I was today. Sterk needs to fire him now and pour some water on this dumpster fire. That is all....
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Posted on 9/16/17 at 6:02 pm to moloz
Down by 32 in the fourth at home against Purdue. I still can't believe it
Posted on 9/16/17 at 6:05 pm to moloz
The only problem I see is BO doesn't have a full staff now. Fire him and there is no HC,DC or MLB coach. If Brian also leaves then no OLB coach. Joe Jon would be a good interim, but who is DC and do interns coach LB's?
Posted on 9/16/17 at 6:07 pm to surgicalvenom
Let whoever is Truman for the day coach all positions. At least the sweaty dude in the costume shows up. That's more than the current staff.....
Posted on 9/16/17 at 6:07 pm to surgicalvenom
dammit, did it again
This post was edited on 9/16/17 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 9/16/17 at 9:14 pm to moloz
Does it matter who's coaching the players at this point?
They could probably teach themselves or play backyard ball on offense and score more often.
They could probably teach themselves or play backyard ball on offense and score more often.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 12:29 am to moloz
Look, we suck balls. But how does not supporting our program help?
Posted on 9/17/17 at 8:46 am to BreakawayZou83
Kind of a quandary want to support the team byt empty seats will get BO shite canned for sure. 
Posted on 9/17/17 at 9:04 am to Tackle74
Exactly my point. I've stuck it out through some funky shite all these years, but if empty seats is what it's going to take to put this train back on the tracks, so be it. It's time to stop half assing this and build a program.
That being said, I'm wearing black and gold today. Heck, I may even have a beer because I don't think I drank enough to get the taste of the turd I was fed yesterday out of my mouth.
That being said, I'm wearing black and gold today. Heck, I may even have a beer because I don't think I drank enough to get the taste of the turd I was fed yesterday out of my mouth.
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 9:08 am
Posted on 9/17/17 at 9:28 am to BreakawayZou83
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Look, we suck balls. But how does not supporting our program help?
This!
I am still looking at the duality on how lack of support impacts the program. On one hand we show the administration that we are not willing to pay for the current product on the field. On the other, we are putting ourselves in a further 3-5 year hole by falling further behind our peers in recruiting.
Even a coach who could come in and show the improvements necessary to field a competent team, will we give ourselves 3-4 years to get back to mediocrity with aspirations of 7 win seasons by years 5/6?
We are basically asking ourselves to be current state Vandy after a period of winning 23 games in a two year span. People truly ready for that?
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:22 am to countrygrammar
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We are basically asking ourselves to be current state Vandy after a period of winning 23 games in a two year span. People truly ready for that?
Vandy is way ahead of us. Hell, Vandy may compete for the division title.
They're just in year four of their coach. This nonsense about years and years is one of the reasons we settle for shite coaches.
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 10:23 am
Posted on 9/17/17 at 11:08 am to the808bass
I can't chastise anyone for not attending games at this point. Hell, I've got tickets to only one game this yr and I'm only going because my son wants to and I couldn't sell them anyway, but it is damaging. An empty stadium is hard to play in and harder to recruit too. This as much as the play on the field will force Sterk's hand. I almost wonder if this team will play better on the road as Faurot is a truly toxic environment right now.
Odom is done at this point, and I can't shed any tears for him. While he never really got any fan support he never really did anything to change it either. He just made it worse.
Moving on from that, I worry about the next guy. I already see a lot of fans performing some serious mental gymnastics to convince themselves that a major rebuild is not needed. Which, I don't see how you can draw that conclusion by watching these guys on the field. It's not going to be quick or easy. My concern is what happens when the next guy doesn't have immediate success. How long until he starts losing fan support, or does he ever get any to begin with.
I'll just say this, if you're not attending games or supporting the program as a way to voice your displeasure and force BO out. Fine, but you damn sure better have your arse in the seats, donate and do all the things that big time fan bases do for the next guy. Be prepared for some tough times because it's highly probable there will be some early no matter who we hire. If you bail on the next coach 15 games in or sooner then you're simply put...a big part of the problem.
Odom is done at this point, and I can't shed any tears for him. While he never really got any fan support he never really did anything to change it either. He just made it worse.
Moving on from that, I worry about the next guy. I already see a lot of fans performing some serious mental gymnastics to convince themselves that a major rebuild is not needed. Which, I don't see how you can draw that conclusion by watching these guys on the field. It's not going to be quick or easy. My concern is what happens when the next guy doesn't have immediate success. How long until he starts losing fan support, or does he ever get any to begin with.
I'll just say this, if you're not attending games or supporting the program as a way to voice your displeasure and force BO out. Fine, but you damn sure better have your arse in the seats, donate and do all the things that big time fan bases do for the next guy. Be prepared for some tough times because it's highly probable there will be some early no matter who we hire. If you bail on the next coach 15 games in or sooner then you're simply put...a big part of the problem.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 11:12 am to JesusQuintana
If Mizzou gets a high profile experienced guy people will give him a shot. Look at basketball ticket sales, people will show up.
You can't open with 4 home games and get embarrassed every game. People have better shite to do.
If Odom's teams were even competitive it would be a different story, but against SEC teams outside of Arkansas we dont even fricking show up.
You can't open with 4 home games and get embarrassed every game. People have better shite to do.
If Odom's teams were even competitive it would be a different story, but against SEC teams outside of Arkansas we dont even fricking show up.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 11:14 am to JesusQuintana
Also there's a huge difference between being a well coached team and one lacking talent. I can deal with lacking talent, that requires time, lacking fundamentals and basic game managing skills like CALLING A frickING TIMEOUT, are indicating you are a shitty coach.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 11:18 am to TigerCruise
I'm not white knighting for Odom. His ship is sinking and it's time to move on. That's not the point.
The point is that the "shot" the next coach is given has to be a real shot. Look, I hope the next guy comes in and whips these bunch of pussies into fighting shape and has great yr 1, but he very likely won't and if the next guy also gets buried by the fanbase within 15 games played...well, we just can't keep doing this shite.
Hopefully the next guy comes in and performs well from jump and we don't have to worry about it but it is my concern.
The point is that the "shot" the next coach is given has to be a real shot. Look, I hope the next guy comes in and whips these bunch of pussies into fighting shape and has great yr 1, but he very likely won't and if the next guy also gets buried by the fanbase within 15 games played...well, we just can't keep doing this shite.
Hopefully the next guy comes in and performs well from jump and we don't have to worry about it but it is my concern.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 11:27 am to JesusQuintana
It's going to depend on the hire.
You go find an FCS coach with no FBS experience people might lose their shite.
You get a winner from an FBS program that shows PROGRESS every year people will be more forgiving.
Odom's issue was last year was supposed to be rock bottom, 4-8. This season was a small step forward at 6-6 with THE WORST SCHEDULE we've had in years.
USC is mediocre at best, MOST putting up 40+ points, and Purdue going balls deep on your team is just not acceptable in year 2.
You go find an FCS coach with no FBS experience people might lose their shite.
You get a winner from an FBS program that shows PROGRESS every year people will be more forgiving.
Odom's issue was last year was supposed to be rock bottom, 4-8. This season was a small step forward at 6-6 with THE WORST SCHEDULE we've had in years.
USC is mediocre at best, MOST putting up 40+ points, and Purdue going balls deep on your team is just not acceptable in year 2.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 11:35 am to TigerCruise
I 100% agree with you. Odom has done nothing to turn the tide in his favor, and I do believe even an incremental improvement would have helped.
That's all water under the bridge at this point. I'm concerned with moving forward. I hope you're right. I have no reason to not trust Sterk at this point. I just worry that the first time the new guy loses a game the fans think he shouldn't, or the team plays poorly...you get the point. I've seen it happen quite a bit.
Another point to consider is that this forcing the AD's hands stuff isn't going to work next time. Whom ever we hire is going to be looking for a long term deal and a big buyout if we fire our current coach in two years or less. They are going to want some assurances and security and to get any attractive candidate we are going to have to give them that. We have to commit 100% to the next hire or we are really fricking ourselves.
That's all water under the bridge at this point. I'm concerned with moving forward. I hope you're right. I have no reason to not trust Sterk at this point. I just worry that the first time the new guy loses a game the fans think he shouldn't, or the team plays poorly...you get the point. I've seen it happen quite a bit.
Another point to consider is that this forcing the AD's hands stuff isn't going to work next time. Whom ever we hire is going to be looking for a long term deal and a big buyout if we fire our current coach in two years or less. They are going to want some assurances and security and to get any attractive candidate we are going to have to give them that. We have to commit 100% to the next hire or we are really fricking ourselves.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 12:00 pm to JesusQuintana
Jesus, true sports fans often miss the point that D-1 football is big business. ADs harp about their school's "Brand"...loyalty, alumni, or state-pride may be a marketing tool, but the performance of the team is paramount.
"Brand" means "Money" rolling into the program. And the program they're selling is entertainment. If you go to a big name concert, and it's a shitty performance, you might come back again thinking it was a fluke. But when you got another shite show, you ain't coming back again.
The majority of asses in seats don't belong to bleed- black and gold alumni. They're folks wanting to have fun watching a good game. Mizzou isn't providing that.
"Brand" means "Money" rolling into the program. And the program they're selling is entertainment. If you go to a big name concert, and it's a shitty performance, you might come back again thinking it was a fluke. But when you got another shite show, you ain't coming back again.
The majority of asses in seats don't belong to bleed- black and gold alumni. They're folks wanting to have fun watching a good game. Mizzou isn't providing that.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 12:34 pm to JesusQuintana
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The point is that the "shot" the next coach is given has to be a real shot.
I do agree. But some of that is on the coach (I think you agree here). The coach has to come in selling a vision to the players and fans of where the team is going. Odom has done exactly zero of that. That's probably a lot of his inexperience at work there.
We can mock Butch and guys like him for their gimmicks and PR campaigns, but they're almost a necessity.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:01 pm to JesusQuintana
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The point is that the "shot" the next coach is given has to be a real shot. Look, I hope the next guy comes in and whips these bunch of pussies into fighting shape and has great yr 1, but he very likely won't and if the next guy also gets buried by the fanbase within 15 games played...well, we just can't keep doing this shite.
Keep doing what shite?
When a coach has proven their complete incompetence they had their shot and got fired.
Kim Anderson was incompetent at this level and Odom is proving to be as well.
Name the last coach who wasn't given a fair shake?
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