re: BB attendance vs. Miami (Ohio)

I'm not sure how copy and pasting something you've said shows that you've attempted to absorb my opinions, which is fine, you definitely don't have to. But don't tell me I haven't said anything more than generalities when you're not even willing to read and engage in the things I've said.

Have you always needed special attention?

You offer nothing except repetitive BS.

I don't know whether to laugh even harder at you, or pity you.

How many times, do you need to try to ram your opinion down everyones throat.

Take a break. Preferably a long one.

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Concrete Reasons Mizzou Fans Are Negative
Dead last in SEC, worst of the P5 conferences (twice)
Most losses in a season (twice)
Longest losing streak in Mizzou basketball history
Biggest loss in Mizzou Arena history
NCAA probation
Academic fraud
Zero road wins

Now let's fill out the opposite list:

Concrete Reasons Mizzou Fans Are Positive
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It's not all black and white.

When trying to understand cultural issues and how those have improved it's hard to put it on a black-white list.

When thinking about a full locker room of guys that this staff made relationships with and how it appears these guys are all hard working good humans. It's a good sign. That isn't something you can just list, it has to be kind of projected within yourself if you want to see how it's positive.

I believe there's a guy who'll be eligible at semester who's getting good reviews. That seems like a good thing.

They played some good teams well, and they've played some bad teams bad. Seems like they've relied on shooting, which is gonna be a streaky thing. They're not loaded with talent. They're not supposed to be at this stage. But they seem loaded with good guys who are willing to put in the work to help get this to where we can get better talent. I realize everyone wants a quick fix, but not going to happen.

First two years was a mixed roster. Some issues with an investigation. Culture had to be changed, which is a lot harder than telling kids to not wear hats at the table. It's very difficult for MLB or any sports franchise to change culture. Business's have a hard time with it. It's not easy. KA has been doing a good job to change the culture. Seems like he's brought in solid humans willing to do this the right way. That's all I've said. You guys can go on with the hate. Whatever suits you.

The things I spoke on do exist in reality. Can't be found on a stat sheet, but they're real.

Best to ya, man.

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The things I spoke on do exist in reality. Can't be found on a stat sheet, but they're real.

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But you can't prove them, that's the whole point. Spin doctors exist because of this. Facts are facts. Spouting platitudes sounds fake.

Which is why I don't believe you are very invested in Mizzou basketball very much. Sure, you'll say things that sound good, but they are so general and underinformed I might as well wander over to Tigerboard. Statements like "I believe there's a guy who'll be eligible at semester who's getting good reviews." is not very inspiring. For the record, his name is Jordan Barnett and he's a transfer from Texas who played high school basketball in St. Louis. The reports are he is dominating practice with the team. A real Mizzou fan would be more specific like I am.

Here's something you can add to the list: Mizzou is currently top 25 in rebounding per game. Which is pretty good for an undersized team.

That's two concrete positive examples! I just doubled your total without you having to actually learn something about the team.

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Actually agree with this. Looks like Mizzou has improved from 225 to 147 in opponents 3 pointers attempted. Mostly probably due to abandoning the pack line defense.

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I like the pack line if you have quick guards and wings that can recover. I worry Mizzou is going to get destroyed against P5 teams because they have decent enough post players.

TP sure still rebounds like he is playing pack line D.

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But you can't prove them,

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What can't be proven?

That there are solid humans staying after games to shoot, buying tickets for fans ect? That's happening, so it's provable.

That there was a probation -- aiding to the point that there was a culture issue left behind by the previous staff?

That there's a decent guy who's gonna be eligible in a couple weeks who should help?

That there's some decent looking underclassmen?

That there is value in having a locker room full of guys this staff made relationships with instead of a mixed bag?

None of that is provable? It all is.

What I've focused on has zero to do with how many rebounds they're getting, which is pretty much non-substantial at this point of the season anyway.

The other stuff, combined with those things above helps us feel the undercurrent. What is happening below the surface. That's what an AD looks at. What is the direction. Is the environment healthy or not.

To dismiss that Haith left a circus culture here and KA hasn't improved it is shameful negligence. There isn't a stat for that. There doesn't need to be one.

I've said multiple times that KA is likely not the guy to move things forward to the level we want to bet at, but he's succeeding at mission 1A, which is cleaning house and laying a healthy foundation. From the start of this I always thought he was here for that primary reason.

And really, responding on the level of trying to counter negatives with positives like this alters things and creates a limited spectrum. You're sharing stats. I'm sharing thoughts. It's two different things.

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I've said multiple times that KA is likely not the guy to move things forward to the level we want to bet at, but he's succeeding at mission 1A, which is cleaning house and laying a healthy foundation. From the start of this I always thought he was here for that primary reason.

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I can guarantee you the AD doesn't agree.

with this roster? Oh fricking please.

Deuce Bello
Johnathan Williams III
Tremaine Isabell
D'Angelo Allen
Namon Wright
Montaque Gill-Caesar
Jakeenan Gant
Ryan Rosburg
Keanau Post

that is where the he started. You gonna tell me we are still there?

Rosburg played great for him. How are the rest of them doing outside of JW III?

Haith was a shite sandwich of epic proportions.
and Krzyzewski couldn't have got this group to play any better.