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Anybody else see this highlight of Ross and salivate a little?

Posted on 8/27/16 at 9:17 pm
Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 9:17 pm
Alex Ross interview.
This post was edited on 8/27/16 at 9:20 pm
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 8/27/16 at 10:05 pm to
The guards are going to have to consistently get into the second level of the defense for him to be effective. He may be a bigger ball carrier but he isn't Bo or Herschel.
This post was edited on 8/27/16 at 10:06 pm
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 8/27/16 at 10:24 pm to
Lots of teams have won lots of games, even national championships, without Bo or Herschel. I think/hope he's gonna be an improvement from what we saw last year.

Gonna be a long week.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 8/27/16 at 11:25 pm to
And those teams had guards getting into the second level of the defense.

The RBs werent the issue last year. Even when Hansbrough was at 80% he had no where to go. Teams took the A gaps away completely with the front 4/3 and every team in the conference has the speed string out plays to the boundary when they know they are coming. A new RB doesn't make that better. Elarbee's starters have to do that.

Next week has 7 days, just like any other.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 11:41 pm to
A better RB does make the running game better. If that weren't the case then it wouldn't matter who was back there.

Your point on the OL is noted. They certainly have to be way better. I don't think anyone expects Ross to come out trucking LBs in the hole, but he does have the size to get through some tackles that would bring smaller guys down and he has the speed to take advantage of poor angles and turn those plays into huge gains.

He's going to be an asset, and so will Crockett, and so will Witter if deployed correctly for that matter.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 12:00 am to
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A better RB does make the running game better. If that weren't the case then it wouldn't matter who was back there

He's going to be an asset, and so will Crockett, and so will Witter if deployed correctly for that matter


Most would agree that Hansbrough was a difference maker when given some creases to hit. With Boehm, McGovern, and Morse opening holes for him in 2014, he averaged 4.46 yds per carry vs conference opponents.

Running behind the most inept line of GPs tenure, Witter averaged 4.89.

The RBs weren't the problem last year. I think Ross adds a lot of value to the RB room and Heupel knows how to deploy him. Pendleton, Abeln, and Bailey handling what is thrown at them drives the bus.
This post was edited on 8/28/16 at 12:07 am
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 12:04 am to
Didn't disagree that a large percentage of how the offense will operate this year falls on the shoulders of the OL.

You sure it only has 7?
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/28/16 at 12:13 am to
I disagree. They weren't the only problem, but they were most definitely a problem. Hansbrough was never himself the entire year and Witter had no ability to run between the tackles. He actually averaged 4.1 yards per carry.

I liked what I saw from him in the spring game though. He's a lot stronger than he was, which he definitely needed to be.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 12:16 am to
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He actually averaged 4.1 yards per carry.


Not during conference play.

Witter Splits

Getting 8 touches a game would be another problem when the other RB is hurt. That would lead us into play calling and personnel decisions as well.

We can agree to disagree on the RBs being an issue.
This post was edited on 8/28/16 at 12:23 am
Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
Member since Feb 2015
1052 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 1:04 am to
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We can agree to disagree on the RBs being an issue


They were an issue.

So was the line.

Ish was pretty much carrying the load with Hans being hurt, and the line sucked.

That changes this year.

wiBO watched it unfold, he knows where the problems existed.

If RB wasn't a problem he doesn't get Ross.

Ross is a difference maker.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 8:04 am to
No worries. I agree had the OL been better then the run game would have as well.

My point simply was that Ross, Crockett and even Witter himself are all better than what we were trotting out there last year
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 8/28/16 at 9:48 am to
he doesn't have the speed or quickness of Witter but he looks like he would do a lot better between the tackles
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 9:58 am to
He's faster than Witter. Witter is good in space, but once they are straight line then Ross is faster.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/28/16 at 12:45 pm to

If you're up on this, does Heupel employ H-backs or TEs to blow open running lanes?

The most frustrating part of 2015 was watching a five-man line overmatched and left on an island with no help.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 1:48 pm to
I think we will see an attached TE on most plays, but his offense is a multiple set system with a lot of motion. You'll have to be quick with the pause button to get a look at the different sets but here is a look at his 2014 rushing offense. Now there isn't a back on the roster that runs like Perine but his concepts are all there.

Things will get tweaked based on the ability of the line but you can get an idea of how he will take on WVU's 3-3-5 Stack at the 3:06 point.

LINK
This post was edited on 8/28/16 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Zou brownmajic
Member since Sep 2013
3470 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 2:44 pm to
If that was Mizzou's 1st or 2nd string deffense I hope they were just playing tag football. I saw a highlight were Crockett was hit by about defenders and bounced right off them as they lay on the ground. That scared the pork chops, rice and gravy out of me defensive-wise.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 7:17 am to
quote:

does Heupel employ H-backs or TEs to blow open running lanes


Matter's article kind of adds to what I said earlier:

quote:

“I love what the tight ends have done,” he said. “When we’ve had tight ends like we’ve had here, we’ve played in three- and four-tight end sets when I was at Oklahoma. We’ve been able to do a lot of things with them.”

Culkin returns as MU’s most experienced offensive player with 25 career starts, but junior Jason Reese and sophomore Kendall Blanton will figure into game plans, too. Perhaps prominently. In Heupel’s hybrid offense — a mixture of spread formations with sets suited for power running — multiple tight ends could be on the field simultaneously on the line of scrimmage, split wide as receivers, set in motion or stationed in the backfield as blockers.


LINK
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67478 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 7:40 am to
quote:

does Heupel employ H-backs or TEs to blow open running lanes?

I think Heupel will "open things up" a bit; not quite full-on like our B12 days but a lot different from what we've seen the past 2/3 yrs
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 9/3/16 at 2:35 pm to
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The guards are going to have to consistently get into the second level of the defense for him to be effective.


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