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Will the team rally around JD this week?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 10/6/14 at 6:13 pm
Or will they go through the motions and half arse their blocks, continue to drop passes, jog up and down the field on their routes, and just straight up give up on plays. If they do that then I say I bench em all. Every damn one of them. I would rather see 11 true freshmen and walk-ons that wanna play for UF and give it their all and not half arse it out there then to just go through motions because they dont agree with who the damn starting QB should be. I would have more respect for Muschamp benching these entitled athletes that dont give a shite and losing all the games left on the schedule then if he were to somehow pull off a 8-3 patch worked effort that somehow back doors the team into the SECCG. Screw this so and so player gives us the best chance to win bullshite, play the players that actually wanna play and give their best efforts for UF. From today on, every persons job is on the line, QB, WR, OL, RB, Coach. Everybody.
Hey Gators get and up and motherfrickin go already!
Hey Gators get and up and motherfrickin go already!
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 6:25 pm to olemc999
Well, one thing I would keep in mind is that only the team really knows what is going on. Sports boards are incredible in the sheer amount of "fact" that gets produced off cherry picking data and then yelling assumptions over and over again.
It definitely looked like the offense got a spark from Treon coming in, but even if that is verifiable, who knows if it was as simple as it just liking Treon more? It could have been Driskel. It could be that they realized the coaches were willing to shake things up to win and found some motivation. It could have been a benchwarmer getting hit with a snowcone that we didn't see that pissed them off (hypothetical there). We really don't know.
As such, I won't guess one way or another, but I wouldn't assume that it is a given the whole team will be down over today's events. Their just turning it around after getting embarrassed at Bama and shut down through three quarter in Knoxville might have an effect all its own. We were done after LSU last year, but they found a way to bounce back after Bama this year. Wasn't pretty, but it still happened.
I'm looking forward to LSU just because I think this is the game where we might have a better idea of the way the season is going to go.
It definitely looked like the offense got a spark from Treon coming in, but even if that is verifiable, who knows if it was as simple as it just liking Treon more? It could have been Driskel. It could be that they realized the coaches were willing to shake things up to win and found some motivation. It could have been a benchwarmer getting hit with a snowcone that we didn't see that pissed them off (hypothetical there). We really don't know.
As such, I won't guess one way or another, but I wouldn't assume that it is a given the whole team will be down over today's events. Their just turning it around after getting embarrassed at Bama and shut down through three quarter in Knoxville might have an effect all its own. We were done after LSU last year, but they found a way to bounce back after Bama this year. Wasn't pretty, but it still happened.
I'm looking forward to LSU just because I think this is the game where we might have a better idea of the way the season is going to go.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:33 pm to olemc999
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Or will they go through the motions and half arse their blocks, continue to drop passes, jog up and down the field on their routes, and just straight up give up on plays. If they do that then I say I bench em all. Every damn one of them. I would rather see 11 true freshmen and walk-ons that wanna play for UF and give it their all and not half arse it out there then to just go through motions because they dont agree with who the damn starting QB should be. I would have more respect for Muschamp benching these entitled athletes that dont give a shite and losing all the games left on the schedule then if he were to somehow pull off a 8-3 patch worked effort that somehow back doors the team into the SECCG. Screw this so and so player gives us the best chance to win bullshite, play the players that actually wanna play and give their best efforts for UF. From today on, every persons job is on the line, QB, WR, OL, RB, Coach. Everybody.
I want to say first and foremost: This spark shite needs to go.
They didn't get a "spark", they're playing half-assed and it's unbelievably obvious. Everything olemc just said was highlighted by me last week.
I even said it during the Kentucky game. These guys just don't seem to operate the same way.
They need to help out whoever is behind center, no matter what their political tomfrickery is. I get it if they like Treon more, but it's just so unbelievably obvious that they don't perform at the same level when Driskel is behind center.
I too would like to see some freshmen on the field this next game -- and I would like to see them fight in the trenches for their quarterback.
Kind of shite that makes you not want to watch games anymore.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:11 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Driskel had 12 drives in the game against Tennessee. His 12 drives averaged 12 yards per drive. He had 0 points & 3 interceptions. Only one direction to go from here.....no way he can get any worse, even though that's the worst SEC defense we will face all year.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:20 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
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Driskel had 12 drives in the game against Tennessee. His 12 drives averaged 12 yards per drive. He had 0 points & 3 interceptions. Only one direction to go from here.....no way he can get any worse, even though that's the worst SEC defense we will face all year.
He had a total of seven drops (one counted on top of Burton getting Pass Interference) -- two of which ended up as interceptions with Palmer personally saying they weren't his fault.
Argue all you want about him not being a good player -- but his team did not help him.
If those seven drops had been completions he would be 18/23.
His passes weren't horrible, maybe a bit fast but Goddamn I'd love to hear an NFL player use that as an excuse. "He threw it too hard.
" Sure, say he's a bad QB, but let's not pretend the team has supported him through thick and thin. They've been half-assing their routes, giving up on routes altogether, running wrong routes and simply not playing as if they want to win.
Suddenly, at the end of the game, our offensive line can block and are completing their assignments?
Jones is rushing for first downs?
Receivers aren't dropping anything? (Although he didn't really throw at all.)
Even the touchdown had nothing to do with him since we simply powered it in.
Good lord, anything for you guys to admit our team is a fricking joke.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:57 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Straws I thought you were totally wrong about the team quitting on Driskel until I read an interview that they did with DJ Humphries and he said that since they knew Harris was a freshman he needed more time to throw so they blocked harder than they do with Driskel because Driskel gets the ball out faster. WTF are you f'ing serious bench them all.
Here is his quote. ''It's a big difference from having a guy who's been there and a guy who hasn't been there,'' offensive lineman D.J. Humphries said. ''There's some antsiness. We have to protect him better so he can actually see stuff. Jeff is older and sees stuff easier than Treon. With Treon, you have to make sure he gets optimum time to see everything he can see.''
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Here is his quote. ''It's a big difference from having a guy who's been there and a guy who hasn't been there,'' offensive lineman D.J. Humphries said. ''There's some antsiness. We have to protect him better so he can actually see stuff. Jeff is older and sees stuff easier than Treon. With Treon, you have to make sure he gets optimum time to see everything he can see.''
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This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:36 pm to gatorbait_007
Just watch their body language.
The reporter at the game even said: "They're all talking with Treon, the communication seems better..."
It's obvious what's going on, and thank you for the link.
The reporter at the game even said: "They're all talking with Treon, the communication seems better..."
It's obvious what's going on, and thank you for the link.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:52 pm to gatorbait_007
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Here is his quote. ''It's a big difference from having a guy who's been there and a guy who hasn't been there,'' offensive lineman D.J. Humphries said. ''There's some antsiness. We have to protect him better so he can actually see stuff. Jeff is older and sees stuff easier than Treon. With Treon, you have to make sure he gets optimum time to see everything he can see.''
I mean holy hell. What more do you need to see or hear. If I am the headcoach i read this quote to the team and then tell them "you do not play harder or better for one person or one coach, you play hard for this entire team, for the fans that show up to see you and for your own personal pride, if any of you pull this shite again your benched, if you mouth off about being benched you are off the team. My job is on the line and now yours is to. You better strap up the laces, quit with the head games, give it your all and go play some Florida Gator football the way its meant to be frickin played around here. Does everybody got that? Good."
Whats he got to lose? If he gets fired, he is getting a 7 million dollar buyout anyway. If there was ever a time for him to have one of his classical heat of the moment tirades, now is the perfect time. And honestly the next time Driskel hits a receiver between the numbers, drops it and the dude kind of halfway rolls his eyes walking to the sidelines, I would like to see him grab the guy by the facemask and tell him "if you dont wanna catch the ball im not gonna throw your way anymore you egotistical frick" I gurandamntee you if he showed some fire like that he would win about 75% of the team over and they would start playing with that goddamn spark we have been hearing about lately.
Boom and Drizzy if yall are out there in cyberspace land reading this shite yall better drop your nuts this week or this gonna be the end for both of ya.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 6:14 am to olemc999
+I have stated before that the defense plays balls out and the offense hasn't. If our offense played with HALF of the intensity that our defense plays with...we'd be monsters.
One other thing...UT is NOT the worse defense we will face all year....don't think some of you realize how determined UT was to win on Saturday...they gave 110% effort...their defense is out on the field a long time because the qb is getting killed by a young inexperienced OL. UT defense is pretty damn good if the offense could stay on the field a little longer...UT's defense just doesn't quite have the depth yet.
I have read so much crap on the internet since yesterday. On some comments about Treons suspension one brilliant rocket scientist posted that Treon was set up cause UF doesn't want a black qb....HUH? What a stupid comment and it shows paranoid behavior. BTW Treons dad is high school coach in Miami and is in position to send us a lot of recruits....why would Boom not want to give his son a chance?
One thing I think we need to do is light a fire under Ropers azz and get this offense fixed. The wrs have been average at best and I thought before the year started that we would excel at this position. We had Joker leave....its time for us to get a bonafide WR coach who can get us on track and recruit talent to UF.
Our OL play is not bad overall...we need game breaker in backfield so we don't have to execute 12-14 play drives to score.....I mean someone with size and speed at RB. Right now we have no choice but to dink and dunk....anyone who knows football knows 12+ play drives are difficult at best and hard to come by. Our defense has helped by giving our offense a shorter field.
One other thing...UT is NOT the worse defense we will face all year....don't think some of you realize how determined UT was to win on Saturday...they gave 110% effort...their defense is out on the field a long time because the qb is getting killed by a young inexperienced OL. UT defense is pretty damn good if the offense could stay on the field a little longer...UT's defense just doesn't quite have the depth yet.
I have read so much crap on the internet since yesterday. On some comments about Treons suspension one brilliant rocket scientist posted that Treon was set up cause UF doesn't want a black qb....HUH? What a stupid comment and it shows paranoid behavior. BTW Treons dad is high school coach in Miami and is in position to send us a lot of recruits....why would Boom not want to give his son a chance?
One thing I think we need to do is light a fire under Ropers azz and get this offense fixed. The wrs have been average at best and I thought before the year started that we would excel at this position. We had Joker leave....its time for us to get a bonafide WR coach who can get us on track and recruit talent to UF.
Our OL play is not bad overall...we need game breaker in backfield so we don't have to execute 12-14 play drives to score.....I mean someone with size and speed at RB. Right now we have no choice but to dink and dunk....anyone who knows football knows 12+ play drives are difficult at best and hard to come by. Our defense has helped by giving our offense a shorter field.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:04 am to olemc999
I doubt it.
Next two weeks should certainly be interesting. Hopefully UF can run it down LSU's throat and keep Jeff from having to win the game, similar to 2012.
The one thing that worries me is that LSU does go deep a lot, so the back end of the secondary better be ready. All it might take is one cheap TD for LSU to win the game this week.
Next two weeks should certainly be interesting. Hopefully UF can run it down LSU's throat and keep Jeff from having to win the game, similar to 2012.
The one thing that worries me is that LSU does go deep a lot, so the back end of the secondary better be ready. All it might take is one cheap TD for LSU to win the game this week.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:08 am to reel_gator8
The biggest problem with the offense right now, IMO, is the lack of a legitimate QB.
The last two games:
20-51, 152 yards, <40% completions <3 YPA, 1 TD, 5 INT
And in those 2 games Florida really should be 0-2. They're lucky as hell to be 1-1. The only reason they have a shot against LSU is because their QB play has been bad to., and their defense is weaker than normal.
The last two games:
20-51, 152 yards, <40% completions <3 YPA, 1 TD, 5 INT
And in those 2 games Florida really should be 0-2. They're lucky as hell to be 1-1. The only reason they have a shot against LSU is because their QB play has been bad to., and their defense is weaker than normal.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:52 am to slayerxing
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The one thing that worries me is that LSU does go deep a lot, so the back end of the secondary better be ready. All it might take is one cheap TD for LSU to win the game this week.
Betchya we'd win if we got the same effort out of our offense for Driskel as they do for Treon.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:26 am to olemc999
I think if they were going to rally around him they already would have.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:09 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I agree. But it seems pretty clear to me the team doesn't want to play for Jeff.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:23 pm to slayerxing
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But it seems pretty clear to me the team doesn't want to play for Jeff.
Then they need to benched to get their minds right.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:52 pm to olemc999
What makes more sense, benching one guy or benching the other 10?
Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:45 pm to slayerxing
The other 10 if they are purposefully playing shite for the one guy. Common sense man.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:06 pm to olemc999
I doubt it's on purpose. I doubt they go out there and say, "OK I hate JD so I'm going to play like crap on purpose."
Those guys want to win as much as anyone else.
And now that Treon is gone, it's not like there is another QB to take the helm.
They don't play well for Driskel because Driskel is NOT A LEADER. He neither inspires with confidence, natural leadership, OR skill.
He is completely inept and hopeless.
The team doesn't play as well for him, because when he is the starter, THEY HAVE NO HOPE.
UF fuuuuuucked
Those guys want to win as much as anyone else.
And now that Treon is gone, it's not like there is another QB to take the helm.
They don't play well for Driskel because Driskel is NOT A LEADER. He neither inspires with confidence, natural leadership, OR skill.
He is completely inept and hopeless.
The team doesn't play as well for him, because when he is the starter, THEY HAVE NO HOPE.
UF fuuuuuucked
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:02 pm to slayerxing
I agree Driskel is not a leader but Humphries made those comments him self. I would hate to think that a change in QB would make you think you needed to block harder so they could have more time. That is your job on the field. Either way Driskel doesn't have my support as the QB at UF. Like I have said many times before we should be able to get past the 50 yard line regardless.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:07 pm to slayerxing
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I doubt it's on purpose. I doubt they go out there and say, "OK I hate JD so I'm going to play like crap on purpose."
Those guys want to win as much as anyone else.
And now that Treon is gone, it's not like there is another QB to take the helm.
They don't play well for Driskel because Driskel is NOT A LEADER. He neither inspires with confidence, natural leadership, OR skill.
He is completely inept and hopeless.
The team doesn't play as well for him, because when he is the starter, THEY HAVE NO HOPE.
UF fuuuuuucked
Nah man it is on purpose. They don't give the same effort -- whether or not it's 95%, 80% or 50% is up for debate, sure, but the fact is -- that's their quarterback. You don't have to like the guy, but how on Earth can we say he's a bad quarterback when they are clearly not playing as hard as they could be?
Outright admitting that they're not because it's Jeff.
Okay, maybe they liked Murphy.
Maybe they like Treon.
That doesn't mean you play half-assed. I'd bench every player that wasn't producing, but Muschamp has absolutely no control over the team. He needs to win, and doesn't care about righting the atmosphere.
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They don't play well for Driskel because Driskel is NOT A LEADER. He neither inspires with confidence, natural leadership, OR skill.
He is completely inept and hopeless.
I'm ex-military, and I've had my share of bad leaders and good leaders growing up and I'll tell you something -- if you're a grown arse fricking man you do your damnedest to do a good job regardless of what you feel is right or wrong.
It's called integrity. The only leadership problem we have on this team is at the Head Coaching position. Do you think Saban would stand for this?
Now we won't fricking know if Driskel is actually inept or people are just dicking around on the field and that's even worse.
Maybe, if they actually fought their hardest, Driskel would look better. This is a team sport, and if they can't be men about it, they can sit on the bench.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 3:10 pm
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