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Quarterback Race.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 2/28/17 at 4:55 pm
I was reading today that McElwain says ''Trask and Franks are too close to call'', do you guys think that he's just mincing words? Based on clips from high school, who would you prefer to see?
What are the chances Del Rio is done?
https://www.seccountry.com/florida/feleipe-franks-opens-floridas-spring-practice-first-team-qb
What are the chances Del Rio is done?
https://www.seccountry.com/florida/feleipe-franks-opens-floridas-spring-practice-first-team-qb
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 6:36 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Put it this way:
If Del Rio wins the starting job, we are in trouble.
If Del Rio wins the starting job, we are in trouble.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:37 pm to boXerrumble
I don't care who wins the job as long as they are productive and help us win games.
I do believe that Franks will ultimately be the guy due to his incredibly high ceiling. Just in the short clips from today, there is an evident development in Franks throwing motion, we all know about his arm strength, now let's hope he can take the next step in grasping the offense and understanding coverages and being a leader
I do believe that Franks will ultimately be the guy due to his incredibly high ceiling. Just in the short clips from today, there is an evident development in Franks throwing motion, we all know about his arm strength, now let's hope he can take the next step in grasping the offense and understanding coverages and being a leader
Posted on 3/1/17 at 8:37 am to atlgator
It has to be Franks or Trask, if not then Mac can not develop or evaluate QBs. He has brought in Appleby and Del Rio and they have been shite. Del Rio knows the offense but not the tools to run it. Appleby has the arm talent but does not know when to get the ball out.
Both Franks and Trask have been in the system for a year. Both have arm talent. One of them should have picked up the offense and have the confidence to lead the team.
Both Franks and Trask have been in the system for a year. Both have arm talent. One of them should have picked up the offense and have the confidence to lead the team.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 1:44 pm to boXerrumble
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Put it this way:
If Del Rio wins the starting job, we are in trouble.
I think we can safely say that barring a string of injuries, Del Rio being the starting QB for anything more than Senior Day or the very start of the year means Mac is gone by the end of 2018.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 5:08 pm to montanagator
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I think we can safely say that barring a string of injuries, Del Rio being the starting QB for anything more than Senior Day or the very start of the year means Mac is gone by the end of 2018.
Yes.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 7:03 pm to boXerrumble
Some of you guys just dont understand...both Grossman and Wuerffel were r/s frosh and struggled early on AND thats with Spurrier as a mentor.
You all seem to think r/s frosh with no game snap experience will just trot out there and win big games early on...wrong!
I am not going to be surprised if Del Rio starts and we slowly work in the r/s frosh. Del Rio has game experience and will have 3 springs under his belt learning...dont discount him yet...is he the answer? No...but he coulds be the bridge we need to fill the inexperience gap we will have early on.
If one of the frosh does start? Then that means the coaches have the utmost confidence in him. I guarantee you Mac isnt the kind of coach who will worry about the peanut gallery and pleasing them.
You all seem to think r/s frosh with no game snap experience will just trot out there and win big games early on...wrong!
I am not going to be surprised if Del Rio starts and we slowly work in the r/s frosh. Del Rio has game experience and will have 3 springs under his belt learning...dont discount him yet...is he the answer? No...but he coulds be the bridge we need to fill the inexperience gap we will have early on.
If one of the frosh does start? Then that means the coaches have the utmost confidence in him. I guarantee you Mac isnt the kind of coach who will worry about the peanut gallery and pleasing them.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 7:07 pm to reel_gator8
I hate to defend another quarterback like I did Driskel (because I got a lot of flak for that), but I actually don't think Del Rio is that bad. I think his major problem is arm strength, and it's just not going to be developed. He made some sensational passes to short and intermediate targets with some clutch third and long passes -- which we hadn't seen for YEARS at the QB position.
But I think he's a little like Driskel in the fact that he's snakebit.
But I think he's a little like Driskel in the fact that he's snakebit.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 7:32 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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t I actually don't think Del Rio is that bad.
I'm not trying to start an argument, but he is really that bad.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:29 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Quarterback Race.
I don't care if he's black, white, brown, or purple if he can win us games and hit open receivers and throw touchdowns and not throw interceptions
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:38 am to Edearl Watson
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I'm not trying to start an argument, but he is really that bad.
He made some clutch short and intermediate plays and looked the part, as I said: Arm strength is his big problem. A lot of underthrown balls get bounced around and he gets some bad luck.
He's average, behind a young line a little below, behind a better line, we'll have to see.
He's definitely not the answer, though.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:33 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
He's not accurate enough to be successful at the SEC level with the arm strength he does have-- if you're going to have a relatively weak arm and still succeed in this conference you need to be able to drop dimes like Danny did.
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:16 am to montanagator
Danny also benefitted from a corp of WRs not seen since. He had the desire and heart to win. You do not have to possess really strong arm strength to win if 1) very good run game 2)have a good defense 3) good OL pass protecting
Danny could make quick reads and his WRs always got open. I saw many passes by Danny that resembled wounded ducks. I see tremendous arm strength in Franks and hecan zing it...but sometimes that only means it gets picked off quicker.
Again, I will not be surprised if JDR or Franks start and I wouldnt be surprised to see Toney get a series or two to see how he does...you cant coach speed and elusiveness and he has the ability to maybe come in give us a change of pace.
Cant wait til spring game and although JDR wont be playing in it most likely...we will get to see 3 or 4 QBs and I want to see our whole team show energy and find out what frosh who have been through spring practices look like.
Danny could make quick reads and his WRs always got open. I saw many passes by Danny that resembled wounded ducks. I see tremendous arm strength in Franks and hecan zing it...but sometimes that only means it gets picked off quicker.
Again, I will not be surprised if JDR or Franks start and I wouldnt be surprised to see Toney get a series or two to see how he does...you cant coach speed and elusiveness and he has the ability to maybe come in give us a change of pace.
Cant wait til spring game and although JDR wont be playing in it most likely...we will get to see 3 or 4 QBs and I want to see our whole team show energy and find out what frosh who have been through spring practices look like.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:55 am to montanagator
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He's not accurate enough to be successful at the SEC level
That's just not true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEglH8VQrFQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxFpgu9Z0J8
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_qSxCPiDIQ
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(Del Rio injury.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBGO0iL0SGw
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4:50 - Splits two defenders on 3rd and 9.
4:58
Just to be totally clear and expedite this conversation: I am NOT saying Del Rio is a good quarterback, maybe not even mediocre -- but he DOES have the accuracy, I think he has a bigger problem in two factors:
1. Playcalling (this is super on Mac, and I hate how stubborn he is in this regard) -- He simply does not have a deep threat, and a lot of his interceptions (barring one game) came from long passes.
2. Bad OL Play (Again on Mac for not protecting the quarterback with playcalling) -- A lot of his bad passes and the passes that are picked off are either A. pre-snap reads or B. He gets way too much pressure and panics.
2 is workable, 1, however, is not. Have to scheme around him if he's your guy going forward.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:10 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
He was fine until he got hurt. Plain and simple. He was a different guy after that.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 2:14 pm to slayerxing
Best part of his game was his mind and he was mentally shot after the injury.
That, on top of playing injured and not being physically gifted with elite arm strength, is why Del Rio looked so bad towards the end. He was fine against a decent Kentucky team when he threw for 350 and a few touchdowns.
That, on top of playing injured and not being physically gifted with elite arm strength, is why Del Rio looked so bad towards the end. He was fine against a decent Kentucky team when he threw for 350 and a few touchdowns.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 2:44 pm to slayerxing
He did make some bad reads before that, but he actually hit some deep balls early in the season.
Unfortunately, I agree with you. He just never looked the same after getting his knee hit, but we also don't know what happened to his shoulder, either.
Unfortunately, I agree with you. He just never looked the same after getting his knee hit, but we also don't know what happened to his shoulder, either.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:57 pm to reel_gator8
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Danny also benefitted from a corp of WRs not seen since. He had the desire and heart to win. You do not have to possess really strong arm strength to win if 1) very good run game 2)have a good defense 3) good OL pass protecting
Danny could make quick reads and his WRs always got open. I saw many passes by Danny that resembled wounded ducks. I see tremendous arm strength in Franks and hecan zing it...but sometimes that only means it gets picked off quicker.
Everyone says we have WRs open on every play now with Mac's offense- that's not a valid excuse.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:00 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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1. Playcalling (this is super on Mac, and I hate how stubborn he is in this regard) -- He simply does not have a deep threat, and a lot of his interceptions (barring one game) came from long passes.
This is fair- god, the Arkansas game reminded me of Boom in a really bad way (how he used to run it up the middle over and over even when it wasn't working to "prove we're tougher") -- when Mac just kept Del Rio chucking Deep Balls despite it obviously not working- not even really mixing it up- Antonio just running a fly route or a post over and over again.
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:27 pm to montanagator
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This is fair- god, the Arkansas game reminded me of Boom in a really bad way (how he used to run it up the middle over and over even when it wasn't working to "prove we're tougher") -- when Mac just kept Del Rio chucking Deep Balls despite it obviously not working- not even really mixing it up- Antonio just running a fly route or a post over and over again.
Yep, this is easily McElwain's worst flaw of last season. Watching him ram that square peg into a round hole reminded me a lot of Muschamp -- if only for one game. If we use Del Rio like he's supposed to be used (i.e., quick releases, quick running plays), he can be super successful. He definitely can zip it in and split defenders, but when he's running around, waiting for a play to develop, we're just begging to be intercepted or get him smashed.
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