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Purdue fans on Appleby & stats.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:13 pm
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Big arm, but will stare down his receivers and try to force ball into coverage. Has talent our coaches ruined any chance of him playing well here. Play good D and run the ball don't put the game in his hands.
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Florida isn't beating many in the SEC with him at QB.
He hasn't been on a winning team in all of his career including North Canton High School.
I am not sure Franks will get that redshirt if Luke is out for a long time.
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Yea you guys are in trouble. Etling and Appleby are too different cases. Appleby never had enough skill. Hard worker and a good guy for sure. But will stare at one receiver until their is a hole in his chest and then throw the ball. Either it will be picked or the receiver will get murdered. He might win a game just b/c of the unknown factor. Thats how we beat Ill on the road a couple years ago. People didn't know what to expect when they played him. Once the tape was out, teams shut him down no problem.
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Think Tebo with all of the stupid God stuff but none of the talent...
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don't feel he is as bad as some want to make him out. He does have a tendency to force the ball at times, but can help a team if is limited in the number of throws that he will need to make. He is also a good scrambler that can surprise you with his legs. If you allow him to manage the game, you should be alright in my opinion. There may be some questions as to whether he will allow that to happen.
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Trask played at the HS I coached at and he and Appleby have many similarities except in the game experience! Mainly pocket passers but can occasionally run the read option...my guess is with Florida's talent he won't be asked to win the game just don't lose it and Appleby can do that!
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Fine young man
Hard worker
Good leader
Smart young man
Not a long pass QB
You have talent he can play with
We did not
Austin Appleby will be very very good for you
Sorry that he left us but understandable
Our coach is the worst in Purdue's history
That's saying a lot
Completed 55% of his passes for 2777 yards and 19TDs-19INTs. Transferred to UF after being replaced by. RS-FR. Hope does better if not we may get to see feleipe franks.
This post was edited on 9/19/16 at 10:19 pm
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 11:17 pm to TJGator1215
You know, I sat through this board abusing me over defending Driskel for almost the entire duration that poor dude was here.
I used to talk about how receivers dropped balls, how our offensive didn't scheme around him, the oline didn't help him and we had no running game -- but I always maintained that he had talent, and was a good player.
And holy shite did I get dumped on, especially here on the Gator board.
He had 23 touchdowns and 20 interceptions, abysmal stats.
In four years, he went 328 for of 552, or 59%
He averaged 7 yards a completion.
His overall rating was 110, more or less.
So, why all these numbers?
Because when he transferred, he went 281 for 450, up 3%.
27 touchdowns (four more than the four years that he had at Florida) and 8 interceptions. He had more completions in his year at LA Tech than he had attempts any year at Florida.
He threw for 4,000+ yards, almost a full thousand more yards than he had at all four years at Florida.
I'm saying this, because sometimes a change in atmosphere and especially a change in coach can make a player much better than they were. Maybe Appleby will be pretty bad, but from what I've seen with Mac -- he can make even the worst quarterbacks at least serviceable, and we literally had the worst last year with Harris.
Sometimes, all it takes is a little change and someone can be special.
I used to talk about how receivers dropped balls, how our offensive didn't scheme around him, the oline didn't help him and we had no running game -- but I always maintained that he had talent, and was a good player.
And holy shite did I get dumped on, especially here on the Gator board.
He had 23 touchdowns and 20 interceptions, abysmal stats.
In four years, he went 328 for of 552, or 59%
He averaged 7 yards a completion.
His overall rating was 110, more or less.
So, why all these numbers?
Because when he transferred, he went 281 for 450, up 3%.
27 touchdowns (four more than the four years that he had at Florida) and 8 interceptions. He had more completions in his year at LA Tech than he had attempts any year at Florida.
He threw for 4,000+ yards, almost a full thousand more yards than he had at all four years at Florida.
I'm saying this, because sometimes a change in atmosphere and especially a change in coach can make a player much better than they were. Maybe Appleby will be pretty bad, but from what I've seen with Mac -- he can make even the worst quarterbacks at least serviceable, and we literally had the worst last year with Harris.
Sometimes, all it takes is a little change and someone can be special.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:44 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Did you see him against NTX we ran the ball because he was inaccurate and missed badly on 1 throw. Driskel was driskel at La tech and he didn't play a team worth a shite and he still couldn't read a defense. He was the best player on the field a lot of times.
Here's his stats from 2014:
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Here's his stats from 2014:
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Purdue is not Florida. The talent surrounding Appleby should be significantly better. But Appleby did not play well at Purdue by any metric (QB rating of 108.4 in his two years, 19 TD and 19 INT).
The key question is whether graduate transfers play better after they leave one situation for another.
To examine this, I looked at the QB rating of all quarterbacks who were graduate transfers and played at their new school in either 2014 or 2015. I limited the list to those who had at least 100 attempts at both schools and used QB rating because it does show astrong correlation with winning. Understandably, this list is relatively short, but it does seem instructive in terms of what Gators fans should expect from Appleby.
There were eight graduate transfer QBs in 2014 or 2015 who saw significant playing time at their first school. As shown in the table below, two showed significant improvement, one took a significant step back and the other five showed extremely small improvements in their play. On average, the QBs showed a 6.5 percent improvement in their quarterback rating.
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Both of these conclusions do not bode well for Appleby. His QB rating in 2015 for Purdue was 113.6. To put that into perspective, Appleby ranked 104 out of 124 QBs. For even more perspective, he ranked five spots below former Gators QB Treon Harris.
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This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 3:12 am
Posted on 9/20/16 at 11:43 am to TJGator1215
You're unreachable. You never watched any of Driskel's games, you don't care about the truth and that's what makes it so frustrating.
Driskel outperformed himself by four years combined, Brisset went on to do perfectly well as did most other quarterbacks who left Florida.
Like I said, a coaching change can make your life much better. Stats ain't everything.
Driskel outperformed himself by four years combined, Brisset went on to do perfectly well as did most other quarterbacks who left Florida.
Like I said, a coaching change can make your life much better. Stats ain't everything.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 12:03 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I'm with straw on this. Looking at Appleby's stats at Purdue, a really really really fricking bad team, playing with maybe their worst coach in their program history if you listen to their fans - will not allow you to see the whole picture.
I have my doubts, but that is based on watching him in the spring game, where he looked tentative and not very confident.
UF will LOSE the game against UT if Appleby plays like he did at Purdue. Turnovers will KILL Florida in this game.
That being said, new coaching and better players around him - yeah he probably won't be a world beater - but maybe he'll be average. Average is all UF needs this week.
I have my doubts, but that is based on watching him in the spring game, where he looked tentative and not very confident.
UF will LOSE the game against UT if Appleby plays like he did at Purdue. Turnovers will KILL Florida in this game.
That being said, new coaching and better players around him - yeah he probably won't be a world beater - but maybe he'll be average. Average is all UF needs this week.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 12:14 pm to slayerxing
Head coach Darrell Hazell
4th year, 7–31 (.184)
Jesus frick, that program is in shambles.
4th year, 7–31 (.184)
Jesus frick, that program is in shambles.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:21 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
They are really really really bad.
They have beaten 2 Power 5 conference teams in the past 4 years. Nebraska and Illinois.
That's it.
Wow.
They have beaten 2 Power 5 conference teams in the past 4 years. Nebraska and Illinois.
That's it.
Wow.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:38 pm to slayerxing
In the past four years, they haven't had more than three wins.
Okay, I'm callin' it.
We can't say shite about Appleby until he plays a full game.
Okay, I'm callin' it.
We can't say shite about Appleby until he plays a full game.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:37 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Brissett has zero to do with Driskel or Appleby.I did watch his games. The only reason he played well was he was The best player on the field. How'd he do in the nfl against 3rd steamers? He driskeled.
But your using statistics to make your case just like me.
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After Colin Kaepernick played the first half, Driskel entered in the third quarter and errors ensued. After two handoffs, his first pass picked off by safety Adrian McDonald. On his next series, Driskel handed off twice before his pass was intercepted by cornerback Trevor Williams.
In three series, Driskel completed 1 of 4 passes for 3 yards with two interceptions, posting a 0.0 passer rating. Driskel completed 14 of 27 passes for 129 yards in his first three preseason games.
But your using statistics to make your case just like me.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:55 pm to TJGator1215
Are you talking about the NFL now? Are you really comparing college to NFL?
I'm confused.
I'm confused.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 5:00 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Ignore TJ. She's a very bitter old woman.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 5:14 pm to roadGator
TJ I love you for your passion..but try to come to the bright side....yeah I wear orange and blue glasses, but I am confident Appleby will do well. He has literally twice the arm strength of JDR and I like him...but his arm keeps him from throwing deep much...he has to wind up and put every ounce of energy to throw a 35 yd pass. Teams were beginning to figure us out by last week and they didnt drop deep..it made passing that much harder.
When AA uncorks a 50 yd bomb on their sorry azzs...they will back up then as I said in another post...on Rant I will use BFA (bombs fricking away) and snicker. Our defense has AAs back if he throws a 50/50 balland its picked off....let them start inside their 20 and see how far they go...Jone's rectal cavity will pucker up.
When AA uncorks a 50 yd bomb on their sorry azzs...they will back up then
as I said in another post...on Rant I will use BFA (bombs fricking away) and snicker. Our defense has AAs back if he throws a 50/50 balland its picked off....let them start inside their 20 and see how far they go...Jone's rectal cavity will pucker up.Posted on 9/20/16 at 5:29 pm to slayerxing
Yes. It's proof he doesn't know Wtf to do when the talent is on an even playing field.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 5:40 pm to roadGator
I see RG makes her presence known.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 5:48 pm to reel_gator8
I hope so reel. I hope so. I hope we lay a 100 on those MFers. GOD I HATE TENNESSEE
Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:25 pm to TJGator1215
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Yes. It's proof he doesn't know Wtf to do when the talent is on an even playing field.
He didn't do well in his first ever NFL game with a whole new team, new environment and in a pre-season game????????
That's your defense? Teams have gone undefeated pre-season and ended up with zero wins in the entire year. Come down off that cross, tater.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 12:25 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
He went 4-12 for 20 yards in his 1st game and threw 2 picks in his last game on his 1st 2 passes against guys that were cut. He was beyond bad. Dak Prescott, Wentz, Brissett and Goff looked good in the same time frame.
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 12:37 am
Posted on 9/21/16 at 12:47 am to TJGator1215
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He went 4-12 for 20 yards in his 1st game and threw 2 picks in his last game on his 1st 2 passes against guys that were cut. He was beyond bad. Dak Prescott, Wentz, Brissett and Goff looked good in the same time frame.
Tom Brady had a QB rating of 79.6 and 58.7 in both of his first games -- not saying this could happen with Driskel but a pre-game is hardly a barometer for anything.
I don't think you really understand that you can't judge a fricking career off of two games, really not even a season. If it were up to you Brady would be cleaning a urinal right now, he can't keep up, he's not a good QB because he underperformed.
No one really just falls into success in the NFL, and saying someone is bad solely based on numbers is, I'm sorry to say.
Really dumb.
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 10:20 am
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:01 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Ok...back on track....I wanna see UT just implode so bad because they have flapped their fricking jaws every summer for the past two years especially....only one way to shut them up.
Remember, our defense is boarding the plane also and thats what is so much fun...because I know the defense is dangerous and will live in the hillbillies backfield most of the game.
Appleby is not afraid to run and we will probably see a few designed run options and reverse pivots to slow the pass rush. Another very very important part of the team boarding the plane is special teams and Fast Eddie and Johnny can make big difference...if we get to the UT 40 yd line and stall...its a 57 yd FG attempt from there or let Johnny punt them deep inside the 10. Either way they fricked.
We are loaded at so many positions now and Mac will be bringing more talent to load up. Good to be a Gator. And Bombs fricking Away
Remember, our defense is boarding the plane also and thats what is so much fun...because I know the defense is dangerous and will live in the hillbillies backfield most of the game.
Appleby is not afraid to run and we will probably see a few designed run options and reverse pivots to slow the pass rush. Another very very important part of the team boarding the plane is special teams and Fast Eddie and Johnny can make big difference...if we get to the UT 40 yd line and stall...its a 57 yd FG attempt from there or let Johnny punt them deep inside the 10. Either way they fricked.
We are loaded at so many positions now and Mac will be bringing more talent to load up. Good to be a Gator. And Bombs fricking Away
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:30 am to reel_gator8
Their defense is gutted and their offense is just tepid. We seem to have found the answer for mobile quarterbacks, let's just hope the atmosphere doesn't rattle our Gators.
Although if Treon Harris could come in and win it, I'm not sure there's a quarterback on the planet who couldn't.
Although if Treon Harris could come in and win it, I'm not sure there's a quarterback on the planet who couldn't.
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