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re: Press Conference - 9/13/17
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:58 pm to UFMatt
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:58 pm to UFMatt
I am done with giving the benefit of doubt with Mac.
I want to see us beat ranked teams more often than not. Winning solves everything.
Next, I would like Mac and Nuss to develop an identity on offense. Great teams have it. Spurrier and Meyer teams had it. Even the Muschamp 2012 team had an identity.
I want to see us beat ranked teams more often than not. Winning solves everything.
Next, I would like Mac and Nuss to develop an identity on offense. Great teams have it. Spurrier and Meyer teams had it. Even the Muschamp 2012 team had an identity.
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:00 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
That offense in 2012 was shaky at best.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:09 pm to TJGator1215
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Finished behind WM in offense.
Listen, man. This is the endless flight of this message board. The offense was bad specifically because of Muschamp. ''They finished behind Muschamp's offenses!1!!1!!'', because we had to fricking fire that loser and rebuild after he left.
McElwain has had some bad games, but he's also taken care of business. He's lost two games where he shouldn't have in two years, as opposed to god knows how many by Muschamp. I mean, frick, Louisville and Georgia both blew out Muschamp, and he should have won those games. In fact, they were the only real games that mattered.
Muschamp lost more games in one season than McElwain has lost in his entire tenure -- and he had to play BCS Bowl caliber talent. This conversation has been getting old.
Every chance someone gets, they shite on him. It's a really terrible way to treat an HC that's gotten the job done and won the East every year. shite, it's only been the first game this year and it was to a Non-SEC team.
If he wins the East this year, the problem is: You'll still want him fired. You get quiet when we win, you go into conniptions when we lose.
If he drops Tennessee, his seat will be boiling -- but if we win, I expect some form of support.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:12 pm to finchmeister08
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That offense in 2012 was shaky at best.
They had an identity. Allow the defense to prevent the other team from scoring more. Run the ball, don't turn it over, and win the field position game.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:14 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
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Even the Muschamp 2012 team had an identity.
Yeah, get 10 first downs a game but do it as slowly as possible.
A&M sacked poor Driskel eight times in one game.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:23 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Listen, man. This is the endless flight of this message board. The offense was bad specifically because of Muschamp. ''They finished behind Muschamp's offenses!1!!1!!'', because we had to fricking fire that loser and rebuild after he left.
McElwain has had some bad games, but he's also taken care of business. He's lost two games where he shouldn't have in two years, as opposed to god knows how many by Muschamp. I mean, frick, Louisville and Georgia both blew out Muschamp, and he should have won those games. In fact, they were the only real games that mattered.
Muschamp lost more games in one season than McElwain has lost in his entire tenure -- and he had to play BCS Bowl caliber talent. This conversation has been getting old.
Every chance someone gets, they shite on him. It's a really terrible way to treat an HC that's gotten the job done and won the East every year. shite, it's only been the first game this year and it was to a Non-SEC team.
If he wins the East this year, the problem is: You'll still want him fired. You get quiet when we win, you go into conniptions when we lose.
If he drops Tennessee, his seat will be boiling -- but if we win, I expect some form of support.
There are typically only 5-6 games that matter on our schedule. Tennessee, LSU, the other West team/ USC, UGA, FSU, and the SEC championship game. This year and moving forward add Michigan/ P5 OOC team.
The rest should be automatic wins, if not it is a failure.
Win enough to be at the SEC championship game or at least 4 of the games above, if not it is a failure.
That is the acceptable floor of UF football, anything less is a failure.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:33 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
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Matt - I don't agree with you that just because someone does not have faith in a coach that they are a cancer to the program. This is a discussion board. We all discuss and express our thoughts.
I am all for a constructive discussion but some posters on this board don't know enough to have a discussion, all they know how to do is bitch. You can't have a discussion with them. They blow up every thread with their negative crap and go silent when the Gators win and yell at the top of their lungs when we lose. These are not true fans.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:33 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
That's where I think I'm actually much harsher than you or even TJ.
All of these games are wins, there is absolutely no reason we should drop a game to any East team.
Georgia would be the only one, but even they're not that good.
South Carolina is awful, they gave up 500 yards to NC State and barely got 250 (I'm not sure they did on offense).
Tennessee looked terrible against Georgia Tech, who, if they had our defense would have beaten Tennessee by 30. Their quarterback takes way too many risks.
Kentucky just had a slugfest with a nobody.
Missouri just got drubbed by South carolina.
Georgia looked mediocre against a pretty mediocre Notre Dame team.
And Vanderbilt we have at home, no idea how good they actually are because they only played soft teams.
That being said: If we drop ANY East game + A&M, McElwain should kindly step out. This is the worst coached the East has ever been since Zook, maybe longer. The teams are downright awful, and if he can't at least manage to find a way to win against them then we have got to go for a program saving hire.
TL;DR
Fire him if he loses any East game, and I do mean any.
All of these games are wins, there is absolutely no reason we should drop a game to any East team.
Georgia would be the only one, but even they're not that good.
South Carolina is awful, they gave up 500 yards to NC State and barely got 250 (I'm not sure they did on offense).
Tennessee looked terrible against Georgia Tech, who, if they had our defense would have beaten Tennessee by 30. Their quarterback takes way too many risks.
Kentucky just had a slugfest with a nobody.
Missouri just got drubbed by South carolina.
Georgia looked mediocre against a pretty mediocre Notre Dame team.
And Vanderbilt we have at home, no idea how good they actually are because they only played soft teams.
That being said: If we drop ANY East game + A&M, McElwain should kindly step out. This is the worst coached the East has ever been since Zook, maybe longer. The teams are downright awful, and if he can't at least manage to find a way to win against them then we have got to go for a program saving hire.
TL;DR
Fire him if he loses any East game, and I do mean any.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:35 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I think we are officially in the same boat as Tennessee. We could be revolving coaches for a long time before finding the right formula to get us to the next level. It is what it is.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:35 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:38 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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All of these games are wins, there is absolutely no reason we should drop a game to any East team.
I agree with this, worse case, we should win the East and see some improvement in the offense as the year goes on. If not, year 4 should be the deciding season for Mac. Go Gators!
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:47 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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TL;DR
Fire him if he loses any East game, and I do mean any.
I don't know about any.
UGA has a load of talent.
I think we are on the same page tho.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 3:35 pm to UFMatt
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If not, year 4 should be the deciding season for Mac. Go Gators!
next year would put too much pressure on him, i think we should give him another 4 just to get settled in.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 4:22 pm to boXerrumble
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I don't know about any.
UGA has a load of talent.
I think we are on the same page tho.
Kirby has shown, repeatedly, that he is not a good coach. A lot of people say it's ''jumping the gun'', stuff like that, but I'm 90% certain that they have a dud. He's not exceptionally intelligent, his offense, in spite of having two five star running backs was worse than ours last season (unless we failed to score 9 points against Presbyterian), a five star quarterback, a five star receiver and a veteran offensive line (in comparison to our own) -- he still got blown out by McElwain.
Against Notre Dame, they were outmatched most of the game and managed to pull it out in the very end.
It's any game, and I'm a pretty staunch McElwain supporter. He's gotta get shite done and establish us as the clear leader of the East every year if we want any chance at returning to playoff level.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 4:57 pm to UFMatt
Bull shite. Great coaches show progress. Mac has regressed. I'm not negative I'm a realist.if anyone's negative it's you who refuses to hold Mac accountable. You're like the damn dog melting in a burning house. This is fine. His teams have gotten worse not better.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:00 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I voiced my opinion that TJ should not be allowed back on this board...but a lot of you said "he'll add color" frick that color....I'll add color. Tired of the fire Mac crap...he aint being fired this year....so why the hell bitch? He will be our HC in 2018 and if we suck....then I'll hold the door open for me to leave.
Repeat....he aint being fired this year even if we go 7-5....get over it.....deal wit it.
Repeat....he aint being fired this year even if we go 7-5....get over it.....deal wit it.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:01 pm to UFMatt
You have no idea what a true fan is. Otherwise you would expect more from your HC.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:06 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
How can you tout the winning East as good in one post and call for Mac's head if he loses an East game in another? You can't blame WM. As urban said It's the new excuse of this generation. WM for as bad as he is has show progress. He's played a FR QB without fear. Still sucks but he's putting out better offenses than the offensive guru. That's bad.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:12 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
UGA OL maybe be veterans but they sucked. That's why FR and Sophs are playing so much. With as good as he recruits and as bad as the East is he may win it like Mac based on sheer talent.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:36 pm to TJGator1215
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How can you tout the winning East as good in one post and call for Mac's head if he loses an East game in another? You can't blame WM. As urban said It's the new excuse of this generation. WM for as bad as he is has show progress. He's played a FR QB without fear. Still sucks but he's putting out better offenses than the offensive guru. That's bad.
WM hasn't done anything at SC. Missouri won't win a game in the East, let alone in the SEC and NC State absolutely dominated them. That is LITERALLY the same, retarded gameplan he had all four years while he was here. Slowplay, kick a field goal to win.
Not to mention: Almost all of his success is because of Bentley, who is just a natural gamer like Manziel. If WE had Bentley, we would be in the playoffs every year.
The problem with this year is that the East is worse than it's ever been.
Losing to anyone outside of Georgia would be a death setence for the year. If McElwain wants his job, he's got to clean up the East or we're coach shopping.
Reel: I don't want to fire McElwain, I don't want to be negative, I don't want our team to lose -- but he has got to get shite done. Period. He has to take care of business. He didn't the first week, and while he has excuses -- now he knows what he has and it's time to step up and make the changes.
I love the Gators, I love TJ and you too, Reel. I hope we show up Saturday, that TJ is wrong. But if we're wrong, we need change. A real HC with experience. My vote is for Mullen.
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