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re: Pregame Thread - Florida at Kentucky - SEC Network 7:30et/6:30ct
Posted on 9/21/17 at 6:54 am to gatordmb89
Posted on 9/21/17 at 6:54 am to gatordmb89
I just don't understand all the confidence all of a sudden. Kentucky and Vanderbilt aren't world beaters, but you don't have to be a world beater to beat Florida.
Kentucky has played florida really close 2 of the last 3 years.
Vanderbilt has played Florida really close 2 of the last 3 years.
Both games are going to be ugly.
Kentucky has played florida really close 2 of the last 3 years.
Vanderbilt has played Florida really close 2 of the last 3 years.
Both games are going to be ugly.
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:23 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Vanderbilt is by far the best team in the East
You are joking right?Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:40 am to TJGator1215
You said it's sad we have to worry about Vandys injuries. Nobody should be worried about Vandy. That's comical.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:42 am to slayerxing
It's not confidence. It's opinion that based on where Florida is right now that they will continue to improve throughout the year. The talent level at UK and Vandy don't scare me at all.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:11 am to gatordmb89
Dude a bad Arkansas team BLASTED Florida last year, and last year's Florida team may have been better than this one, although it's still too early to tell.
Arkansas was not overly talented last year - about the same as Kentucky.
Vanderbilt hasn't had great talent the past few years but has still hit Florida right in the mouth.
This is a Florida team that has not proven they can protect the football, or block anybody.
They have proven to be resilient. There's that. But I just don't see why that means we waive off Kentucky and Vanderbilt like they are nothing.
Arkansas was not overly talented last year - about the same as Kentucky.
Vanderbilt hasn't had great talent the past few years but has still hit Florida right in the mouth.
This is a Florida team that has not proven they can protect the football, or block anybody.
They have proven to be resilient. There's that. But I just don't see why that means we waive off Kentucky and Vanderbilt like they are nothing.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:27 am to gatordmb89
What improvements have you seen? We still can block, run the ball effectively or protect it. If UT had a kicker we start 0-2. We're licking our way to wins just like the previous two years. It'll end once we run into teams that are decent.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 8:55 am to gatordmb89
13-6 and 9-7. Both nail biters. I said it was said we have to hope VU gets injured in response to this:
Vandy has the #1 defense in the country. They give up 198 yds of offense. #28 in run defense and #1 in pass defense. #1 in scoring defense, #11 in sacks, #17 in TO margin, #1 in RZ defense. Our offense is on the exact opposite end of the rankings. Our defense is terrible. It's at #101 and that's without a game. #107 in run defense, #79 in pass defense, #78 in scoring defense and #8 in RZ defense. The only spot UF shares with VU is both offenses suck. VU #104 and UF #122 in total O. VU is #68 in passing, #112 in rushing and #78 in scoring. UF #91 in passing, #118 in rushing and #108 in scoring. UF trails them in every category but played a game less. They're going to be tough to beat.
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Totally agree. I don't wish injury on anyone but I can say with a straight face that I'm glad they have to play Bama this week.
Vandy has the #1 defense in the country. They give up 198 yds of offense. #28 in run defense and #1 in pass defense. #1 in scoring defense, #11 in sacks, #17 in TO margin, #1 in RZ defense. Our offense is on the exact opposite end of the rankings. Our defense is terrible. It's at #101 and that's without a game. #107 in run defense, #79 in pass defense, #78 in scoring defense and #8 in RZ defense. The only spot UF shares with VU is both offenses suck. VU #104 and UF #122 in total O. VU is #68 in passing, #112 in rushing and #78 in scoring. UF #91 in passing, #118 in rushing and #108 in scoring. UF trails them in every category but played a game less. They're going to be tough to beat.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:09 am to TJGator1215
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Our defense is terrible. It's at #101 and that's without a game.
Right, because our defense would be ranked even lower statistically if our game against Northern Colorado weren't cancelled
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 10:14 am
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:14 am to TJGator1215
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If UT had a kicker we start 0-2. We're licking our way to wins just like the previous two years. It'll end once we run into teams that are decent.
A couple of things:
If Malik Davis doesn't fumble on the goal line the score is 20-3 and we probably win 27-10.
This is the first game in years that we won because of the offense making plays at the end.
The improvements from game one to game two are obvious. We had one three and out the whole game, ran the ball better, finally put the ball in the end zone, and had 200 yards of offense in the fourth quarter.
Once again, you're embellishing the negatives while not acknowledging the positives.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 11:05 am to atlgator
Lots of ifs, IF Franks doesnt overthrow the RB on the wide open screan he walks in the EZ
Toney dropped a TD
Perine fumbled on a long run
Davis fumbles a sure td
Yes if we go up 20-3 its a much different game.
Toney dropped a TD
Perine fumbled on a long run
Davis fumbles a sure td
Yes if we go up 20-3 its a much different game.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 12:41 pm to dbuchanon
If we're still going on the ''what if'' machine -- if we don't get a 56 yard running play called back against Michigan due to a phantom hold, we go up 24 - 10 and our confidence is way, way different going into half-time.
Tennessee was only in the game because of our dropped passes, fumbles on the one yard line etc. etc.. They didn't lose it, we won it. We executed when we needed to, TJ, they didn't.
However, Kentucky and Vanderbilt should both be wins, as I don't think either of them have a better running back, for frick sure they don't. Kelly is damn good.
Kentucky's Snell got 67 yards on 20 carries against Southern Miss.
Vanderbilt's Webb got 46 on 21 carries against KSU.
This whole ''they don't have to be world beaters...'' argument is putrid, kinda old and stale. Literally, the last two years we have only lost to two teams we shouldn't have -- one being Arkansas and the other being Tennessee who we should/would have put away if we weren't still building our offensive line.
The others actually were world beaters.
We have an offensive identity, and if we open it up there shouldn't be a team in the East who even comes close outside of Georgia from hereon out.
Tennessee was only in the game because of our dropped passes, fumbles on the one yard line etc. etc.. They didn't lose it, we won it. We executed when we needed to, TJ, they didn't.
However, Kentucky and Vanderbilt should both be wins, as I don't think either of them have a better running back, for frick sure they don't. Kelly is damn good.
Kentucky's Snell got 67 yards on 20 carries against Southern Miss.
Vanderbilt's Webb got 46 on 21 carries against KSU.
This whole ''they don't have to be world beaters...'' argument is putrid, kinda old and stale. Literally, the last two years we have only lost to two teams we shouldn't have -- one being Arkansas and the other being Tennessee who we should/would have put away if we weren't still building our offensive line.
The others actually were world beaters
. We have an offensive identity, and if we open it up there shouldn't be a team in the East who even comes close outside of Georgia from hereon out.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 1:36 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
We dropped 2 picks as well
Lots of things kept this from going either way or a blowout for Florida
Driving on first possession get 2 fals starts, walk away with 3 instead of 7
We go up 20-3 with 10 min left, its a whole different game.
Lots of things kept this from going either way or a blowout for Florida
Driving on first possession get 2 fals starts, walk away with 3 instead of 7
We go up 20-3 with 10 min left, its a whole different game.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:07 pm to dbuchanon
This what if game is stupid.
IF they had hit all their FGs the last TD doesn't win the game.
IF they hadn't been so dumb in the red zone they CRUSH Florida in the 2nd half.
Listen, even if you listen to Spivey and Nick on their podcast - No one who professionally follows this team thinks UF is going to be able to run the ball on Kentucky because UF sucks at running the ball. They spent a bunch of time talking about how this staff HAS to open the passing game up to win the game and they are confident that if they do that, UF could win by a lot.
But there is no guarantee that the staff does that. They have been pretty conservative in this position in the past - so people who follow this team professionally are nervous UF may try to win this game running - which they don't think UF can.
It's on the staff to open things up. Will they?
IDK.
IF they had hit all their FGs the last TD doesn't win the game.
IF they hadn't been so dumb in the red zone they CRUSH Florida in the 2nd half.
Listen, even if you listen to Spivey and Nick on their podcast - No one who professionally follows this team thinks UF is going to be able to run the ball on Kentucky because UF sucks at running the ball. They spent a bunch of time talking about how this staff HAS to open the passing game up to win the game and they are confident that if they do that, UF could win by a lot.
But there is no guarantee that the staff does that. They have been pretty conservative in this position in the past - so people who follow this team professionally are nervous UF may try to win this game running - which they don't think UF can.
It's on the staff to open things up. Will they?
IDK.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:49 pm to slayerxing
UF will run the ball on KY
Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:14 pm to dbuchanon
I hope so.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:16 pm to dbuchanon
I'm skeptical about that. I think we pass on them with ease and the defense forces TOs for a short field.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:52 pm to TJGator1215
I just gotta believe from what ive seen that we ll be able to run on them.
Just my opinion
Just my opinion
Posted on 9/21/17 at 5:09 pm to slayerxing
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No one who professionally follows this team thinks UF is going to be able to run the ball on Kentucky because UF sucks at running the ball.
We had 168 yards rushing against Tennessee????
Why on Earth do they think Kentucker is suddenly going to hold us to nothing running the ball? Because they stuffed some shitty directional Kentucky team, Southern Miss and one of the worst Head Coaches to ever walk the planet????
Tennessee is better than Kentucky, and you have to realize that Tennessee has probably watched us crush everyone on the one yard line -- LSU last year, being a pivotal game. They probably felt they had better numbers throwing, specifically because we seem to just luck out on the one. We caused their bad playcalling.
Conversely, we dropped a sure touchdown.
We fumbled a sure touchdown by not properly securing.
We fumbled a sure 20+ gain by exhibit two.
We fix those problems, and keep chuggin' on offense, this game is done by the third quarter.
Unless, of course, you think Florida is a rich man's Eastern Kentucky, which is what a lot of people are thinking???
Posted on 9/21/17 at 5:26 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Preach!
Posted on 9/21/17 at 6:04 pm to dbuchanon
Ok. Cool. Just worried expectations are getting a little big all of a sudden.
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