re: Offense vs. Missouri and going forward (Long Analysis Add your Thoughts Here)

Sure I'm sure coaching has been totally absent for two years and the players got better through self help videos on fricking youtube.

No I'm saying these coaches haven't done anything remarkable. What players that weren't 4/5*s has this staff developed? Jawaan Taylor and Perine. The players keep making the same mistakes. If this is so good We'd have multiple players who were succeeding. Where's Worton, Fulwood, Ancrum, Bryan, R Jackson,Fred Johnson, Ivey, Sharpe, Goolbsy, Lewis, CECE,Clark, Washington, Williamson Thompson, Dawson, etc developing? AC81, Brantley and BCJ have all regressed. How tf is that possible? The players that are shining were shining before this staff got here. This team only "looks good" because our schedule has been trash. That changes beginning next week.

Cece has played great - it's just not showing up in the stat column. Brantley has been hurt. Sherit was our biggest surprise on d but got hurt. Washington has turned a corner and Zuniga is out sack leader. Goldsby has like 25 receptions and Dillard is actually hanging in there at center despite reports he would never cut it on the sec. Johnson is improving at guard and Scarlett and Perine are UF's. best rb tandem in many years. What games have you been watching?

Kylan Johnson and David Reese look like a legit future at lb, polite looks like he will be a legit threat on the dl and Joseph and moon have been killing it on special teamsxwhen healthy.

Wake up.

The east is not good. There maybe 2 teams that make a bowl

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2015 class

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But that's not fully his class.

''Yet heading into last weekend's on-campus visits, the final set before signing day, Florida's class consisted of just 10 commitments and sat closer to Florida Atlantic's than Florida State's in the national rankings. As of Monday morning, it had 13 members but still checked in down at No. 65 nationally on Scout.com's rankings, one spot behind Purdue's. While both numbers will rise by signing day's end, the Gators -- despite their name brand and talent-centric location -- will likely finish well below all but a couple of their SEC peers.''

I don't think it's fair that you use his first...tenth of a class?

From the same article:

''They're going to be fine," Newberg said of Michigan. "They have a roster more conducive to a quick turnaround. They're in a much better position to close out this class than Florida."''

"People don't realize how poor [Florida]'s roster is offensively. They need a complete overhaul," said Newberg. "They need to really attack that side of the ball with this group, or it's going to set them back another year."



So, we can cut like, at least half of the first class out, and when we do that he has more 4 and 5 stars than three stars, or exactly the same.

ox...its just a friendly discussion about the Gators :banghead:

I could go to the Vols or LSU boards and wouldnt see all the negative crap posted about the Gators on this board by one individual...who shall remain nameless but his initials are TJ.

And by the way...the comment that AC81 is regressing is total horse manure....AC81 has been injured a lot and has been playing through it.

TJ please try to restrain yourself some...its negative 110% of the time...why? Does it do any good? And if I were being called a fake fan by others it would give me pause and make me wonder why others felt that way. Maybe you reside in Tallyban or in Athens or Knoxvegas or maybe you are just a Gator fan wired wrong....dont know and dont care....but it might , just might be time to take stock and figure out why you are so mega negative?

You dont have to be mega confident (I got that part already) or not have opinions...good and bad about the games...but maybe tempered? If we went 10-1 I doubt we will hear much from you though...just a hunch.

ALL my stats are backed by the NCAA, 247, Mac's own records and teams played at CSU and Here vs good teams and the top 25. You can't make that go away because you disagree with them. Suck a fricking shotgun if you don't like hearing them. 3 *s signed by Mac is now down to 39 with telfort getting his 4th star. For a class that doesn't count 2015 has a lot of contributors.

In Mac's 2015 class, HE got commitments from the likes of Antonio Callaway, 5 star Martez Ivey and CeCe Jefferson, 4 stars Jordan Scarlett and Jordan Cronkrite.

1.Jaawan Taylor-'16
2.jaewon Taylor-'16
3.LaMical Perine-16
4.AC81-'15

So these guys aren't good players cause they were three stars? You're a fricking dope.

5.Tyler Jordan-'15
6. Chris Williamson-'15
7. Daniel imatorbhebe-'15

8. Jabari Zuniga-'15

Ranked a 4 star on 247's actual rankings- not composite

9. Brandon Sandifer-'15
10. Camrin Knight-'15
11. Khalif Jackson-'15
12. Andrew ivie-'15
13. Kevionnis Davis-'15
14. RDJ-'15
15. Fred Johnson-'15
16. Kylan Johnson-'15
17. Nick Buchanan-'15
18. Luke Ancrum-'15
19. Rayshad Jackson-'15
20. Dre Massey-'16
21. David Reese-'16

22. Rick Wells-'16

4 star on one of the three major recruiting websites

23. MaCArthur Burnett-16
24. Brett Heggie-16
25. Quincy Lenton-16
26. Vosean Joseph-16
27. Jochai Polite-16
28. Joseph Putu-16
29. Stone Forsythe-16

30. Eddy Pineiro-16

#1 player in the country at his position


31.Chris McWilliams-16
32. Kyle Trask-16

33. Shawn Davis-17
34. Kadarius Toney-17
35. Ventrell Miller-17
36. James Houston-17
37. Zech Byrd-17

Ranked 4 star or better on at least one of the three major recruiting services

38. Jordan Scott-17
39. Javier Edwards-17

39 out of 62 commits for 63% so far. Impressive

And when you cut out the bullshite, it's 14 guys from his full class that are ranked 3 star. The ones from this class aren't official until February and the ones from his first class are not all his. The guys HE got to commit after he was hired are a majority ranked 4 and 5 star. Your argument is invalid you pathetic fricking loser.

I never said they weren't good. Recruiting rosters full of 3*s gets three star results. This has been proven time and again whether through NC, AAs or NFL picks. Our classes with Meyer and even WM were 60+% 4/5*. We're In games because of these 4-5*s players. Zuniga got most His sacks against scrubs. The rest your cherry picking 247 is a composite of all the sites. I can't wait to add your New excuse when we suck next year on defense because the bad personnel management and talent drop will huge.

Running tab of excuses used by those on this board.

Have 0-1 OL commit and O DT commits signed in '16,currently? That's WMs fault


Have bad play with QBs that Mac signed? That's Will-treons fault


Sign a terrible QB from Purdue and blow a 21 point lead?

He's not Mac's guy and injuries!

Have a QB that throws 3 picks and has a 47% comp rating against the #100 defense and has only looked good in 1 game? That's WM, Treon or Wills fault.

Retaining a terrible OL coach for 2 straight years? That's WM fault.


Hiring an OC that. Has been ran off multiple places?

That's WM fault

Hiring a defensive staff that can't get more than 3-4 4*s a class? Blame WM

Your team plays down to the competition and keeps making the same mistakes a year and a half in while being terrible in the RZ? Blame WM


Your averaging the same amount of points and getting 60 more yards a game?

That's Mac's success


Have a 7-17 record against teams with a winning record?

That's not important

Winning a division with only wins against 3 teams with a winning record?

Mac is killing it!

Have 3 of the worst UF classes in recruiting in the rankings era?

WMs fault.