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re: Mac to Oregon??

Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:11 pm to
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:11 pm to
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So, please, tell me who is miserable here - people who recognize one of the worst offenses in football or people that malign others?

I'll tell you again: game you don't play, outcome you don't control, opinions of others. Get a grip man.


If you don't like reading different opinions why are you on a message board? It's not maligning anybody. It's just completely unreasonable to call for a person to be fired when all he has done is WIN the SEC East in each of his first two years. You can cite all the statistics you want and talk about how bad the offense is, but it doesn't change the fact that we have been winning. Mac is 13-3 against the SEC in the regular season. You can slice that and dice it however you want, but it is extremely impressive. That's the best two year run we've had against SEC competition since Tebows junior and senior season.

Yes the offense is bad. But I'm willing to give it a pass because we are winning and I can see that the offense is being built from the ground up. You strip down the offense and work your way up. It's painful, but that's how rebuilds work. I'll take SEC Championship appearances in rebuilding years. I have no doubt in my mind that the offense will get better and better starting next season.
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
2696 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:17 pm to
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I read earlier that 89.9% of our offensive production has come from freshmen or sophomores, or transfers brought in by Mac. That's actually kind of an encouraging statistic as those guys will continue to get better and production should continue to improve from those guys. But that means we're getting only 10.1% of our offensive production from guys that are juniors and seniors.

That is fricking pitiful. Our most seasoned and experienced players give us almost no production. I'll hold off on firing Mac. You can say blaming Muschamp is an excuse, but it's real. 10% of our offensive production is coming from our juniors and seniors. 10. Percent.


You can't reduce the analysis to these types of numbers.

First, how much playing time is there for frosh and soph compared to junior and senior? If they aren't on equal footing for playing time then the statistics are not comparable. Also, at RB Thompson is a juco transfer. He's a junior but he's still one of Mac's guys that he brought in. This makes that number even less credible because it would serve to detract from giving Mac credit for talent brought in.

Second, against FSU they had 207 yards of offense. 89% of a low number is still a low number.

Third, Appleby has over 40% of the passing yards this season. So, you run into double counting issues. Do you count passing game yards by the guy throwing the ball or the guy that caught it?

By the way, if you go to floridagators.com and look at the stats, for some reason they have LDR counted twice in all of the categories in which he appears. So, that may have affected these numbers as well, who knows.

Again, these numbers are just too simple to provide much insight here.
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
2696 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:15 pm to
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f you don't like reading different opinions why are you on a message board? It's not maligning anybody.


Now you're engaging in circular argumentation and ignoring your own comments.

Congrats, you've hit rock bottom. Not only do you fail to support any of your assertions, you've embraced the argumentation strategies of a child and have reduced your credibility to zero.


Job well done!



Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 11:51 pm to
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 6:26 am to


It was a simple question, not an argument. If you would have continued to read my post, it is there that you would have seen what my argument is. You ignore the stats I post that are supportive of Mac because of your blind rage and hatred for him. Here's some stats that support my assertion that I have posted many times: Mac is 13-3 against the SEC, that's the best two year run in conference since the best player in school history was a junior and senior. Mac is 11-1 at home. Mac is in the SEC Championship each of his first two seasons, something that has never been done by anyone. You ignore these facts because they don't align with your narrative. And when facts like this are presented to you, you resort to calling others a child and call them uncredible (as if a message board is supposed to be a source of credibility?) because you have no answer or argument against what was said.

You talk down to people as if you believe you are more sophisticated and above everyone else on this board. It started when you acted like you were Jeremy Foley and has continued from there. This is a message board where people say their opinion and people are passionate about their opinion. I may not like TJ or Finch or a few others (i.e. You), and when you say something I don't agree with I'm going to let you know about it. Just like how when I say something they don't agree with, they let me know about it.

Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35587 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:02 pm to
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I may not like TJ or Finch or a few others (i.e. You), and when you say something I don't agree with I'm going to let you know about it.

I know I'm not here for you to like and I don't care if you do or not. But if I ever "talked down" to any of you, I apologize.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:09 pm to
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I know I'm not here for you to like and I don't care if you do or not. But if I ever "talked down" to any of you, I apologize.




That wasn't directed at you, I respect you and your opinion even if I don't agree
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