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Mac to Oregon??

Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:47 pm
Posted by dbuchanon
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:47 pm
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Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by Edearl Watson
Parts Unknown
Member since May 2012
6782 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:01 pm to
Clickbait, nothing more.

Why would Oregon of all places wan a pro style coach?
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:10 pm to
When reports broke that Herman was going to LSU i thought UT would come callin. Supposedly he was on their list after Herman
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
2696 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:12 pm to
Get Clairebelle a sweater.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:41 am to
I'll buy his plane ticket. Nuss's too.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:46 pm to
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Nuss's too.


I will split it with you.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12506 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:27 pm to
I would think his buyout would be very high after we had to pay his buyout from Colorado State. I agree with most It wouldn't hurt My feelings if he left.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:31 pm to
Do you dense motherfrickers not realize that if Mac left that would set our program back ANOTHER 4-5 years beyond how far we were already set back before he took over?

Some of you guys beat anything I've ever stepped in.

Dumbasses.
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
2696 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:41 pm to
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Do you dense motherfrickers not realize that if Mac left that would set our program back ANOTHER 4-5 years beyond how far we were already set back before he took over?

Some of you guys beat anything I've ever stepped in.

Dumbasses.


When you finish your intense workout comprised of exercises in self-righteousness, maybe you'll remember the coaching change from Darnell to Spurrier - program went into orbit, not set back 4-5 years.
Or that from Zook to Meyer, 2nd year national title, 4th year national title.

MichSt was 0-11 the year before Saban. They went to a bowl game his first season.

The program is only set back if a mediocre or bad coach is brought in.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:34 pm to
Why would you replace a coach that's gotten you to a championship game in each of his first two years coming off seasons of 7-5 and 4-8 when he arrived?

Realistically, who would you hire right now that would come in and put our program in a better position than what Mac has in the first two years and considering what his options were at QB and that he only had 6 offensive linemen going into the spring just a year and a half ago?

He's built up the offensive roster and now we're a quarterback away. The young guys on defense have stepped up so far. All of our offensive contributors are Macs guys. You guys just have zero patience. It's fricking embarrassing. You're a bunch of spoiled brats. That's why the elite coaches we've had in the past have left. Because the spoiled arse fans have unrealistic expectations. We're in the SECCG. fricking enjoy it.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:01 pm to
Because his hires and recruiting have been disasters. Because the thing he was hired to fix has gotten worse under his watch despite it being his speciality. Yes we've won the East but it's been horrible since 2012. It's not our jobs to hire HCs its The ADs. Id throw $5-7M
@ Kelly, Mullen, Petrino, Dabo, then If they said no then on to Fleck, Taggart, etc. He hasn't built anything, he's in the process of running UF into the ground with a thud faster than WM long-term. We have unbalanced classes again especially on defense. We don't even know if Trask or Franks can play. We have 1 OL & 1 low ranked DT. We're sitting at 18 in the country. I'd enjoy the game if I didn't already know What The outcome is going to be. Another hapless beat down.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 10:17 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:03 pm to
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He's built up the offensive roster and now we're a quarterback away. The young guys on defense have stepped up so far. All of our offensive contributors are Macs guys. You guys just have zero patience. It's fricking embarrassing. You're a bunch of spoiled brats. That's why the elite coaches we've had in the past have left. Because the spoiled arse fans have unrealistic expectations. We're in the SECCG. fricking enjoy it.


Yes, we are in the SECCG.

But I am fricking tired of seeing a goddamn trashbin of an offense on that field.

For 7 fricking straight years.

I've been very supportive of McElwain this year on this board, but that offense he put on the field against FSU is flat out unacceptable.

Same with the Arkansas game.

And I don't know what the frick the 2nd half of the Tennessee game was, because the Vols are absolute garbage.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:16 am to
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TJGator1215
quote:

Id throw $5-7M
@ Kelly,



This is pure comedy TJ...obviously you have not researched Kelly very well and I am assuming Chip Kelly? He HATES college and has stated as much and HATES
recruiting. Scratch him off his shite list. Petrino? Are you fricking insane? First, UF would not hire him and his ton of baggage, second, he is sleazy. Mullen?? So we can scream for his head when we went 8-4? Dabo? Flintstones Dabo? Over rated Clemson?

This stuff cant be even made up...thats why I am close to laughter so hard my sides hurt. Just stop please before I injure my rib cage.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:25 am to
If Florida were to lose Mac to Oregon or were to flop in two years after we've seen what the team looks like when he actually has his own players, the first two guys I'd want would be Dabo Sweeney and Chip Kelly.
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
2696 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:42 am to
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He's built up the offensive roster and now we're a quarterback away.


So the roster is built up but the performance is now ranked worse than last year or at best the same.

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All of our offensive contributors are Macs guys.


And the offense is worse or at best the same.

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You guys just have zero patience.


Not zero. Not infinity either.

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It's fricking embarrassing. You're a bunch of spoiled brats.


Is it more embarrassing than you and reel and others with your constant character assaults on others that are expressing their opinions? I haven't seen one Florida fan go after Mac's character or say a player is a spoiled brat or anything like that. And if you have seen that, it definitely hasn't been from me.

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That's why the elite coaches we've had in the past have left. Because the spoiled arse fans have unrealistic expectations. We're in the SECCG. fricking enjoy it.


No coach understands football and especially offense like Spurrier. And no one ever had expectations that matched his. The idea that he left because of fan expectations is BS. And Meyer - ha, it was Saban, it was being hunted all the time, and it was being up against a tough schedule that did him in. Meyer takes meds to cope with the pressure of game day, not tigerdroppings. And if you buy into other accounts, either he was screwing around or his wife was, and that was a huge reason he departed.

Coaches don't answer to fans. They don't even have time to dive into mail, email, or phone calls. They have more time with reporters than fans, by a long shot. Want to blame them too? When coaches finally get a break, do you think they spend time with family or do they fire up tigerdroppings and check out what some douche internet guy has to say?

There is only one group outside the upper university administration that gets to coaches - and that's the top 1% of the boosters.

Look at Texas and their mega booster (is it McCombs?) - that a-hole set up Strong for failure from day one. Charlie was never going to succeed at Texas because the toxic culture their mega billionaire boosters provide. It's frankly a miracle that Texas can attract any top talent at all, given that environment. That environment is not here at Florida. When Meyer said we need new stuff, that Heavener Complex money flowed in like a waterfall. When Mac wanted a better IPF than what Foley had planned, it happened immediately and it wasn't because some poors like you and me threw an extra $5 at them. And now Foley is hanging out for a while so he can help Strickland push through even more mega millions for upgrades.

These coaches are catered to non-stop. So, even if fan expectations are out of sorts with reality, that's tough shite for them. They don't have any problems spending the millions fans pump into a program so they can deal with it if some fans bitch and whine, especially when they have little to no exposure to them. You probably saw Mac's presser - a reporter was relaying stuff "from the fans". Mac had no clue about the fans. He doesn't have time for that. You act like these coaches are special needs children. The worst they get is their kids saying, "Dad, why does the internet say you suck at your job?"

Let me tell you who the most miserable people are on this board: it's you and reel and the others that have made it your life's mission to castigate the rest of us. The rest of us, overall, appear to be expressing opinion and displeasure with the offense. But aside from that, I don't see any misery. The people not happy with the offense recognize it for what it is.

You are making yourselves miserable over a game you don't play, results out of your control, and the opinions of others. Now tell me what's embarrassing again. This is a lecture for 8yr olds. You're a grown arse man.

In the words of Will Muschamp, get a grip.

Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:08 am to
No one thinks the offense where it is at is acceptable. Nobody.

When I watch the games, I see receivers running wide open with their hands up begging for the quarterback to get the ball to them. You know why the ball doesn't get into Callaway and Cleveland and Powell and Swain's hands? Because the quarterback can't get them the fricking ball. It's embarrassing and it's pitiful.

Mac has been here for two years now. He has one and a half recruiting classes on campus. In those one and a half classes, he has gotten 3 starting OL (and those 3 guys are probably our 3 best OL), our two most explosive weapons at wide receiver, and all three of our running backs. He has brought in the #4 quarterback recruit in the country and currently has the #10 quarterback recruit in the country committed. The quarterback situation was so bad that he had to get not one, but two transfer quarterbacks. They're the only two transfer quarterbacks to start at UF, ever. The best players on the team are not supposed to be freshmen and sophomores. They are for us. Look at the juniors and seniors on offense. David Sharpe, DeAndre Goolsby, and Brandon Powell are the only contributors that Muschamp left. If Franks or Trask come in next year and struggle, then I'll start to seriously worry about Mac. Right now it's growing pains because of a lack of a competent quarterback.

Just because posters like me and reel and the others understand that there is a process behind building a program and success doesn't come at the wave of a magic wand doesn't mean that we don't criticize Mac or think everything is sunshine and roses.

You're too blinded by your criticism of Mac that you don't see the roster improvements and the skill players running wide open all over the field. Give Mac a chance to have his own quarterback to see what the offense can become. If they struggle next year with a Mac guy, then that will be a serious cause for concern. Right now, the "Fire Mac" hive is just unrealistic and unreasonable.

And for you to try to spin the positive people on this board as the "miserable people on this board" is a joke. I'm just a fan man. And so are you. Be a fan, root for your team. Stop bitching and moaning so much. You all sound miserable when you complain at every opportunity and beat the dead horse. Try to enjoy Florida in the SECCG this weekend and enjoy rooting for the Gators. Not everyone is lucky enough to call themselves Gators. So embrace it. It'll make Saturdays a whole lot more fun for you, I promise.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:32 am to
People have a weird way of not recognizing immediate history when it is staring them in the face.

The 5 years before Mac's arrival, UF had gone:

8-5 (4-4)
7-6 (3-5)
12-2 (7-1)
4-8 (3-5)
7-5 (4-4) (really should be 8-5 - missed Idaho game)

This was a program not just in decline, but circling the drain. The 12-2 season was a blip, one last hurrah from a decaying program.

Then the next two years:

10-4 (7-1)
8-3 (6-2) - (really should be 9-3, missed Presbyterian game)

This represents the most SEC wins in any two year stretch since 2008-2009.

I have concerns, serious concerns about this staff, as it relates to recruiting, overall arrogance of the head coach, and failing to develop a QB. I'm not sure if they are the right staff for those three reasons.

But I think we have gone a bit overboard on the calling for his head at the end of year 2.



Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11427 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:11 am to
quote:

I have concerns, serious concerns about this staff, as it relates to recruiting, overall arrogance of the head coach, and failing to develop a QB. I'm not sure if they are the right staff for those three reasons.

But I think we have gone a bit overboard on the calling for his head at the end of year 2.


Some fans that post regularly on this site for some reason think that you can snap your fingers, hire a new coach, replace the AD and you will start winning 12 games a year, the SEC and national championship all in the first year. IT ISN'T THAT EASY OR EVERYONE WOULD BE UNDEFEATED. Realistically if you hire the right coach, have the right AD and snap your fingers you can hope for improvement after a couple years. No one is satisfied with where UF is as a program right now but we have improved from the shite show that was Will Muschamp. We have won the SEC East 2 years in a row, this hasn't been done since Spurrier was the coach. Rebuilding is hard and takes time, we need to all step away from the edge and give Mac some time get it done. Go Gators, beat Bama!
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:19 am to
quote:

Rebuilding is hard and takes time, we need to all step away from the edge and give Mac some time get it done. Go Gators, beat Bama!



This. You can state all the statistics you want, but Mac has rebuilt the offense from the ground up. The recruiting has to pick up and he has to find a quarterback. Period. I am of the opinion that if the team continues to struggle offensively with a quarterback brought in by Mac to be a legitimate starter, then we will be in trouble.

It just sounds ridiculous for people to be calling for a coach to be fired that's gotten us to the conference championship two years in a row, was the SEC coach of the year last year, and is a finalist for National Coach of the Year this year. Everyone else could see that our roster was shitty when Mac took over, except for our own fans.
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