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Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:20 pm
Posted by olemc999
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:20 pm
Here the rules. State wether or not you have a positive outlook as of now or a negative outlook on UF football. If you are positive post something negative and vice versa if you feel the other way.

Positive

My negative is that I am even starting to question why we haven't made staff hires at this point.
Posted by KajunGator
Lake Arthur, LA
Member since May 2011
7284 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:21 pm to
Positive

My negative is that TJ claims to be a fan.....
Posted by olemc999
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Member since Oct 2010
13254 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:22 pm to
Come on bruh
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35557 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:23 pm to
Positive

we get to see franks next year

Negative

we'll still get trounced by bama if we can make it to atlanta again
Posted by KajunGator
Lake Arthur, LA
Member since May 2011
7284 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Come on bruh


Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Positive

we get to see franks next year



Not so fast, there's a chance Luke Del Rio wins the job back because Franks ain't that good.

quote:

Negative


Luke Del Rio will be our quarterback.

All jokes aside:

Positive: While the offense is inept, there is still plausible blame game shifting -- there have been huge advances at all skill positions on the offense and QB seems to have stayed the same since...well.

I don't even know. It's been so long that we haven't had a natural QB outside of Driskel (who was destroyed by Muschamp) and Grier that we don't really know what the offense would look like if that piece of the puzzle was inserted.

Negative:

I don't like that McElwain seems, at times, to do the complete opposite of what should be done. Most of us know to run the ball at Arkansas, and we throw like 40 times. Even if, sometimes, it works out (LSU game on our own two and he chucks one downfield for a touchdown), but if it didn't we would be having a different conversation right now.

He still gets a year, maybe even two, but by then if we're still getting blownout it's time for him to go.

Considering that was already happening before he came, and it was happening to teams with less raw talent, it's excusable at the very least.
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
13254 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:33 pm to
I ain't gonna lie that Arkansas game sent up some red flags for me.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:37 pm to
That was probably the biggest blow to his credibility. That was a very winnable game, but he totally blew it by playcalling. That one was all coaches, even though there were receivers that were open.
Posted by KajunGator
Lake Arthur, LA
Member since May 2011
7284 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

Luke Del Rio will be our quarterback.


On Del Rio, and I might get lynched for saying this...

If the staff can get him past his mental BS, he can still turn out to be a good QB for us.

Before he got injured (3 games), he threw for 762 yards, had 7.3 yards per attempt, an average qbr of 139.6, a pass completion percentage of 60.4, and had outscored our first 3 opponents 101-14.

He was never the same after he got hurt...but he's not a "bad" QB.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:18 pm to
Positive

Mac is reactive to correcting problems instead of proactive.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:24 pm to
Mixed.

Positive - We have a coach that seems to be at least attempting to push the right buttons organizationally to get UF to a better place, and UF has been winning 9-10 games consistently each year, and I don't care you you are, that is good. 9-10 wins consistently is exactly what we all became used to with Spurrier, and UF seems to be back to that.

Negative - the recruiting, on paper, is the weakest I have ever seen it since I started paying attention about 12 years ago now. That is not a good sign. The defensive depth is the weakest I can remember it, and the rush defense was the worst it has been in 13 years this past year. The running game on offense is also the weakest I have seen in many years. I haven't checked the stats, but it was historically bad. Head scratching losses to UT and Arkansas also leave me wondering about the game day coaching from this staff, especially in the 2nd half of games.

Random thought - I am super pissed that this board banned a gator fan. Come on people. Nut up. If you don't agree with someone just ignore him and don't engage. This banning shite is stupid and we should leave that to the super sensitives over at GC.

In Summary:
This coaching staff has to improve their recruiting, they are missing far too often on their first and second targets, and they need to find a way to beat the 3 UF main rivals, UT, UGA, and FSU. They are 3-3 so far, and that needs to continue to improve past .500. Outside of that, they are doing what they were hired to do, winning the east, which IMO is something a UF coach should be expected to do regularly, and winning at home, which they have been OK at so far (only 1 loss so far). Year 3 is going to tell us a lot about this staff as the players are now about 80% mac recruits.




Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:26 pm to
Kajun, To be fair, those were the 3 weakest opponents on the schedule. It's hard to look at that and say much about the rest of the year. But agree, he wasn't the same after the injury.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:28 pm to
Playing LDR with his arm barely attached was ridiculous. I actually think this team would have been better all year had they prepped Appleby to be the guy.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:32 pm to
The most frustrating game I have seen at Florida in the McElwain era was the Arkansas game.

It was so obvious to everyone watching that game that LDR was not going to be able to get it done.

The fact that the coaching staff was so blindly arrogant about it was just stunning to me.

The coaching staff lost that game with their decision to play LDR. Plain and fricking simple.

So frustrating. Ugh.

I hope he is healthy and able to contribute next year, but mentally, I don't know how he comes back from that.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

On Del Rio, and I might get lynched for saying this...

If the staff can get him past his mental BS, he can still turn out to be a good QB for us.


Nah man, you're totally right.

He actually isn't a bad quarterback. He has the precision to make some damn good throws, but my fear is that McElwain is not prepared to use him the way he should be. He is NOT a deep passer by any stretch, it's just not in his arsenal and he was constantly pressured, pre-snap, to just bomb it out when he didn't have the arm strength.

But he made some crucial, CLUTCH 3rd down plays where he just seemed to wire it along.

He can be good, but he was also a work-in-process. If they work with him exclusively, or a lot, I think he'll be just fine until we can coach up the rest of the guys.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41072 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:45 pm to
I am positive about the program.

My only negative is the fact that everyone cheats in recruiting but UF.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:52 pm to
That is such horse shite. If everyone is cheating, and UF is the only one not cheating, then the UF staff is playing with one arm tied behind their back, and I doubt they would do that to themselves.

That is just some UF fans trying to use the moral high ground to justify below average recruiting, on paper, IMO.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

I am super pissed that this board banned a gator fan.


I drive 45 minutes and this happens? TJ got banned??



I think you meant to say a troll got banned though. And anybody that says they hope that another poster gets dismembered and mutilated so that they can throw a party to celebrate it kind of deserves to get banned IMO. That's unhinged and insane, to get that worked up over a comment made on a message board shows his lack of maturity.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 4:00 pm
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35557 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

I am super pissed that this board banned a gator fan.

this actually happened? i saw the thread get whacked but that's it. if DMB, really did that, he needs to go evaluate his duties as an admin for this board. that's ridiculous.

i guess i better get on board with this boards mission to accept Mac for what he is...

Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:08 pm to
quote:


this actually happened? i saw the thread get whacked but that's it. if DMB, really did that, he needs to go evaluate his duties as an admin for this board. that's ridiculous.

i guess i better get on board with this boards mission to accept Mac for what he is...



You're still here because while you're not in the ''keep McElwain'' camp, you're at least reasonable to some extent and your concerns are legitimate sometimes. He went off the deep end, though.
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