re: Great article position by position for Florida

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It's very simple: Muschamp was outcoached. Every game he lost, he was outcoached. For his first few years he completely eclipsed the other team in talent and it's showing in the NFL especially on the offensive side.

His defenses were EXTREMELY padded -- nevermind 400+ yards against an FCS and 650+ vs. Alabama.

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StrawsDrawnAtRandom

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Ahhh you stepped right into it again Straw...by your definition of a horrible coach...please include Saban in that group. He had his shite pushed in by Utah, yes, Utah in Sugar Bowl and then turned around a few years ago and Oklahoma blew his fricking doors off. TWICE he got taken behind the woodshed in the Sugar Bowl.
I guess Saban was outcoached then? Please answer so I can post on Bama board (j/k Straw).

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Ahhh you stepped right into it again Straw...by your definition of a horrible coach...please include Saban in that group. He had his shite pushed in by Utah, yes, Utah in Sugar Bowl and then turned around a few years ago and Oklahoma blew his fricking doors off. TWICE he got taken behind the woodshed in the Sugar Bowl.
I guess Saban was outcoached then? Please answer so I can post on Bama board (j/k Straw).

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You're kidding, right? You're like a horse with blinders, you focus on one part of the entire argument and leave out other factors like:

Muschamp inherited a world-class defense and actually, now that we're watching the offensive players blow it up at other schools (Did you see Driskel's bowl numbers?), a more than serviceable offense that was just coming off of two NCGs, a Sugar bowl blowout and was a title contender almost every year.

Saban inherited a team that was coming off of suspensions, and in his next year he won the national championship after losing to Utah.

Muschamp went on to a 4 - 8 season, including a loss to an FCS. I know you think you've made an accurate portrayal but taking Muschamp's single "successful" season and trying to spin it has not worked at all.

Saban: Next year NCG.

Muschamp: First losing season since 1979, the first Gators coach to have two losing SEC records since the 1950s, also ended a 22-year bowl streak that dated back to 1991 when we came off probation, a homecoming loss to Vanderbilt—our first loss to the Commodores since 1988 and first at home since 1945, the first loss to a lower division team in the history of our program.

It's not about one season, he did fantastic ONCE, and then shite the bed in the two games that mattered. If Mac had a good quarterback, we'd've been in the NCG or lost a very close game to Alabama.

Muschamp had several serviceable quarterbacks and proceeded to absolutely wreck them, failed to recruit at the offensive line, failed to recruit running backs, wide receivers, line backers (are you joking?), quarterbacks, KICKERS. The list goes on and aside from having a good defense (something we've had since Zook) the dude was an abysmal head coach.

Please, please, stop. The facts are not with you, which is why the loser got fired and we should move on and stop pretending just because he's a good guy that he was even a DECENT head coach.

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Can you please stop saying this?

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When people stop saying he's a decent head coach because of the one year he did something -- and what little success he had was completely lost in the blink of an eye.

I just can't stand watching dudes defend his tenure after he nearly ruined our football program.

Can you imagine where we would be one more year with him?

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He won big games that year.

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He lost the most important ones. Literally could have lost against FSU, LSU, Texas A&M or even South Carolina.

Literally the only team he had to beat was Georgia. "Bad luck" isn't what happened, getting outcoached is what happened.

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I don't see how he was out coached in that game really.

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His team put the ball on the ground 6 times and lost 4

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Oh come on.... the team only had turned it over 4 times in 7 games before the Georgia game. It was a total fricking fluke. And then they only turned it over 2 more times the rest of the season until the meltdown in the bowl game.

Don't try to blame that oddity on coaching. Jesus christ.

I don't see how you can blame Muschamp for that and in the same breath praise McElwain after getting fricking blasted the last 3 games of the season and almost losing to a shitty FAU and Vanderbilt team.

I'm not a muschamp supporter, but don't just spout stupid shite come on.

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I don't see how you can blame Muschamp for that and in the same breath praise McElwain after getting fricking blasted the last 3 games of the season and almost losing to a shitty FAU and Vanderbilt team.

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Maybe it's because someone forgot to recruit the offensive line?

Maybe they also forgot to recruit and coach quarterbacks?

Maybe they also forgot to recruit wide receivers?

Maybe they also forgot to recruit kickers?

What if, even furthermore, they forgot to recruit running backs?

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I'm not a muschamp supporter, but don't just spout stupid shite come on.

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It's bizarre that you say that after his abysmal recruiting, multiple head coach fails (taking timeouts before taking delay of game penalties, how many times did that happen?), being near to dead last in penalties, games like ULL, games like Georgia Southern, games like -- ah forget it.

Yeah, Muschamp was decent with stud talent.

Mac succeeded with almost no talent on offense. Literally, the only skill position that had anything was the Tight-End. Other than that, freshmen and transfers will all be on the front line last year.

So I'm sorry, okay guys? I'm sorry for criticizing a coach who was the worst coach we had in over 20 something years.

I'm sorry he couldn't recruit.

I'm sorry he gave up 400+ yards rushing to an FCS school.

I'm sorry in the years before that he gave up 200+ yards rushing to another FCS school.

Sorry he got blown out by Vanderbilt on our homecoming.

Sorry he had two back to back losing seasons in the SEC for the first time since forever.

Sorry he couldn't even fricking make it to a bowl, and then struggled to do so in his last year.

But I'm not sorry that he's a loser. And he will continue to be a loser at South Carolina. There is absolutely no reason --

-Recruiting (awful, couldn't even do it here at Florida)
-Offense (worst in the SEC)
-Defense (padded stats by shortening the game)
-Special Teams (we had none aside from punting this year)


to believe he will be any more successful at *any* other school. He had it made here in Florida -- recruiting, resources, prestige, MONEY, beautiful state/campus, stellar support and fans.

And he almost killed our program, only to have another coach come in and accomplish in one year what he couldn't in four.

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Chatty kathy clip your string....

Jesus.

I just didn't agree with your assessment of one game, no need to preach all the other stuff- you're preaching to the choir on a lot of that.

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Then there's nothing to discuss other than he's a mediocre coach who failed at, in no particular order: Recruiting, program managing, scheming -- okay, basically everything that makes a good coach.

No idea why we have to say nice things about the dude, he accomplished nothing in all four years.

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IDK... he didn't do anything intentional... I think you give credit where credit is due when people do well, and credit where it's due when they suck.

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Neither did my buddy when he drove his car into the ditch, doesn't change the fact he's a bad driver.

I gave him credit, but his small credit was overshadowed by his massive program related problems.