Great article position by position for Florida

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The truth is that McElwain was able to beat a Tennessee team that just demolished Northwestern, a Georgia team that just beat Penn State, and an Ole Miss squad that routed Oklahoma State in the Sugar Bowl. Yes, his Florida team lost to LSU, FSU, Alabama, and Michigan, the last three badly, but that is what happens when your roster is built by Will Muschamp, meaning you rely on three true freshman offensive linemen, a quarterback that should be playing slot receiver at the FCS level, and one receiver who is worth a damn.

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Great article indeed.

Cue the dead horse and Straw beating the shite out of it. Of course our 2011 season was all Muschamps fault even though we lost Brantley in Bama game for half a season and Boom inherited Meyers recruits....but that would get in the way of his arguments

Straw is just trying to bait me to respond...he knows Im like a dog hearing the food being poured in his bowl

"Defensive ends Justus Reed and Jordan Sherit are decent players who add much needed depth along the defensive line, but may never be starting caliber players much the way Justin Trattou and Duke Lemmens were a few years back."

We have had so many good DEs in recent years and he brings up Duke Lemmens, WTF.

Overall good article. When Mac sees a problem, he fixes it.

Year one recruiting, lack of depth at OL and DL. Brings in 7 OL (4 that started) and 5 DL.

Year two recruit, QB depth, WR playmakers, and kickers are the issues. Mac brings in 2 QBs that are EE and one grad transfer. UF already has 3 great WR on campus and are going after 4 more WRs that played in All star games. At kicker, Mac steals the #1 JUCO kicker from Saban.

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and I'm glad that someone who was talking other than decent about Mac posted a website that demonstrated the deficiencies left behind the last administration.

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Here we go again. No one can have an opinion other than you it seems. Everything went perfect our last 6 games and we cant talk about it at all in a negative way.

Yeah we won 10 games and looked like crap doing it offensively for half of them. Does anyone else disagree with that statement? We relied on the nations worst kicker to beat Vandy, should we have to do that? We had 28yds in the second half of the Citrus Bowl, is that not sorta embarrassing? FAU took us to OT at home, did you see that coming? You yourself questioned decisions made during the year whether it be the use of TE's or fake field goal defense vs LSU.

I wasn't talking other than decent on Mac just giving my opinion on how the team finished and reiterating questions and thoughts 99% of the people on this board have had. I never said fire Mac I never said its next year or he is gone, I never even put a timeframe down unlike you who gave him 3 years. All I said is I wont stand behind him or any other coach the way I did Muschamp after going 4-8 and losing to Georgia Southern. Besides nothing I said even fits "other than decent" based on the definition of decent.
"conforming with generally accepted standards of respectable or moral behavior or of an acceptable standard; satisfactory."
Unless we are using the standard of Straws which if we are please provide us with a detailed description so we can all conform to it on future posts.

Seriously just because I don't share your same view point and I'm not as giddy and excited about the way our team performed in the Citrus Bowl and the games leading up to it doesn't mean I dislike or am talking Ill of the staff. You seem to make a habit of doing this to posters that don't share your same outlook or opinion. Are we allowed to have our own opinions on here or not.

Can you honestly tell me that not a single thing I voiced concern about you didn't question or wonder about?

My opinions were in the context and subject of the thread and discussion that was being had. Nitpicking is saying I didn't like the way he had Treon tie his shoe I do not believe having a concern on why we had 28 yards in a half is nitpicking.

I agree unlike what Muschamp said our offensive cupboard was full of Vienna Sausages and ramen when he left

I will also end it at that and I look forward to the years to come.

Florida went 4-4 in the last 8 and should probably have been 2-6.

Fact is they didn't lose, and hence, McElwain is a champ and nut a chump. Thems the breaks. Austin Hardin made the biggest kick of his life against Vanderbilt. Some guys are just lucky.

I think this coaching staff is certainly better than what came before but there are legitimate concerns:

1. The handing of the FG kicking situation was a fricking shite show all year. Options were limited, but I think one of the worst decisions ever made was toying with Hardin's confidence by having the back up kick a XP against Vanderbilt.

2. Special teams in general, outside of AC, was a total fricking disaster. TOTAL. frickING. DISASTER. A number of penalties that provided other teams first downs on punt block, poor fake punt and fake FG defense, and this was the first year IN FOREVER, that UF didn't block an XP, FG, or punt.

3. The QB situation at the beginning of the year was a farce, and it showed two things that almost cost us the ECU game: 1. McElwain is arrogant (which is OK at times, spurrier and meyer were too) and 2. McElwain does not respect lesser opponents and is willing to screw around some in those games. He showed that in his decision making against ECU, Vandy, and FAU. Two of those games UF was lucky to win.

I think it's crazy how are fans are so bipolar. Either the coach is an unblamable genius or he is at fault for everything. There is no in-between. This is a hard sport to coach - every mistake is on national TV at Florida. But listen- McElwain is not perfect, and if not for a miracle against UT followed by horrendous UT clock management, great luck and good fortune against FAU, and the luckiest mother fricking FG of all time against Vandebrilt, UF was a 7 win team like we all thought this year.

mcElwain delivered, fine. But it still looks smoke and mirrorish to me at this point.

Edit - what will be interesting to see is if McElwain made grier or grier made mcelwain. We will know that soon enough, because without greir, mcelwain's team was shite.

Edit 2 - This team was psychological very fragile and I predicted that last year. Once they started losing things went south. No matter who the coach was that was going to be an issue.

So what Muschamp did in his second year going 11-1 wasnt impressive? I know you hate facts that just dont fit in your scheme...but Muschamp inherited a lot of crap in 2011 and had starting QB miss about four or five games. In his SECOND year we were close to playing for SECCG and all the marbles afterwards. Our defense stout.

RB? Are you kidding me Straw...true frosh can do well at RB unlike other positions...but its still a learning curve to get blocking down pat.

Muschamp faced a MUCH bigger problem in 2011 when he took over...we had Gillislee oft injured, two scatbacks that were not SEC RBs as far as hitting the middle and blocking. 175 lbs is hard to put up against 265 lb DEs. But you wanna bring up RBs? In 2013 Jones missed first two games and then finally suffered season ending injury against LSU....so he played about 3 or 4 games. Muschamp had perennial bench warmer Gillislee run for a lot of yardage in 2012 and he is still in the pros.

I can defend Muschamp til the cows come home if you like but why? Im glad McElwain is our HC and I will defend him also. If you persist in Muschamp hating then expect me to defend him. Its better to drop the whole thing and talk about our current staff. No?

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We will know that soon enough, because without greir, mcelwain's team was shite.

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The OL was going to be shite regardless of the QB.

And Callaway was the only legit WR target.

What pissed me off the most was how the TEs disappeared after Grier was suspended.

And also how Nus misused Powell in the worst way possible.

Powell was fricking clutch vs Tennessee, then had his one long TD vs. Ole Miss, then disappeared.

I know he was hurt, but Nus and McElwain deserve the blame for his disappearance from the offense.

Hard to judge Franks on US ARMY AA game...but he has the arm and will hopefully mature enough and developed enough by 2017 to help. Grier was Gatorade Player of the Year and he r/s ed and had that year off to learn and develop which gave him a head start in 2015.

Our defense should be good enough to keep us in every game til the offense comes around. The UT game is key to a year where we could be very good or dismal to fair.

QB?
RB think its positive
TE hope Goolsby and Lewis add weight and improve blocking
WR Callaway is a game changer and need a few more peices
OL definitely positive

DL should be stoutish
LB barring injury/Davis leaving...we are good
DB if Maye stays we will be good to very good
Special teams Townsend is great and if Fast Eddie delivers....much much better.

Schedule is easy except UT, Arkie and girls school trips. I dont think UGA will improved in 2016 and we make it 3 straight.

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We lost to a shite Miami team in 2013 when we were basically 100% healthy

That bullshite injury excuse got muschamp another year when he should of been fired

Who the hell actually thought he was gonna turn it around in 2014? Lol

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Seriously, the ship has sailed. He had/has no excuses. There is no reason to believe he will be a good head coach in the SEC, unless he's given like 10+ years at USC. Maybe their defense will improve (it can't get worse), maybe they, uh, you know, actually bowl -- but...

If that dude couldn't get us to a bowl (and nearly missed a second year in a row), how in the frick is he going to go to a program with:

Less talent.

Less resources.

Less money.

Less recruiting ties.

Less everything.

And make them into winners?

Some of our fellow Gators are unbelievably delusional.