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Brandon Powell talks about offense.

Posted on 5/10/15 at 11:36 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 5/10/15 at 11:36 pm
https://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/101354/brandon-powell-sees-better-days-ahead-for-gators-receivers

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“Everybody keeps saying we don’t have any receivers,” Powell said. “We really do. It’s just that last year we couldn’t spread the ball around like we wanted to because of the play-calling. This year, we’re going to prove to a lot of people that we’re better than what everybody is saying.”


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“We have a ton of athletes on offense. Last year, we just couldn’t show it with the play calls. With coach Mac coming in, it will show. You already see it in practice. People are making plays in practice that didn’t even touch the field last year."


I really wish there was some more elaboration on points like these.

Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 6:50 am to
It's just what we already know. Nothing new to see here.

Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:06 am to
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It's just what we already know. Nothing new to see here.


My question is: Why was our playcalling so muted? I assume Muschamp didn't want to lose, and that we had three offensive coordinators -- at least one of them had to have known what they were doing -- why did we have what was essentially the same offense every year?

It just makes no sense to me, because I've always maintained that Muschamp was diddling with the offense -- why won't any player, coach or other person come right out and say it?

Well, Powell essentially did.
Posted by bengalbait
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:21 pm to
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why won't any player, coach or other person come right out and say it?


Any current player would be ill advised to make critical statements about the previous head coach. I just don't think it would sit well with the new staff. Why previous players haven't come forward is a mystery to me as well. Maybe they either just don't care anymore or they choose not to sling mud. As for the situation as you stated, 3 OCs could not have possibly all been that bad the problem had to come from the common thread which was Muschamp.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:45 pm to
I always go back to Muschamp's third year. UF was playing Toledo early in the year and everyone was excited to see Demarcus Robinson get in the game. He came in, I think, on one play, and never saw the field again. When asked after the game why DRob didn't play, Muschamp said he didn't know.

This was, IMO, the perfect example of why I never felt Muschamp was a good coach. He could tell you every detail you'd ever want to hear about the defense, about why who played where and why, and who messed up, and who played well, etc., but he didn't even have the slightest idea of UF's offensive substitution patterns.

When you are the head coach, you are responsible for MANAGING every aspect of the team. So it always seemed to me he managed the defense OK, (although he had some bad moments there too, especially in year 4), but on offense it was always a giant cluster frick. The team never was never organized enough, the play calling never made any sense, and the substitution patterns were conservative and ultimately - dooming. I think had he COMPLETELY left it alone, it might have been OK, but I think it was a case of him interfering enough to be a detractor, but not enough to help anything.

That;s just my opinion though.
Posted by olemc999
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:54 pm to
I used to think Muschamp was meddling with the offense then the bowl game happened. An entire game and practice and prep time without him in involved and the offense looked exactly the same.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 2:20 pm to
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I used to think Muschamp was meddling with the offense then the bowl game happened. An entire game and practice and prep time without him in involved and the offense looked exactly the same.


Yep.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 3:19 pm to
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I used to think Muschamp was meddling with the offense then the bowl game happened. An entire game and practice and prep time without him in involved and the offense looked exactly the same.


I saw players who usually didn't touch the ball at all get the ball -- and that we had more playmakers than initially thought like Powell said.

Adam Lane came in and blew it up, Powell received the ball three times while only receiving 15 all year (in 12 games total).

Lane carried the ball 16 times -- he carried it 8 times the entire season and got over one hundred yards.

Durkin commented on how Lane should have touched the ball more, and like I said: It's bizarre how we have so much talent on the sidelines, but they never get the chance to see the field.

Both of those players barely saw the field, and both should have been given far more opportunities.
Posted by olemc999
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 6:37 pm to
Lane only got to carry the ball because Matt Jones sat out. Confidence was lost in Powell when he got stuffed on the one yard line against LSU. Which was a retarded play call to begin with. Should of went with a power back.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 6:12 pm to
I think Weiss left to get away from Muschamp. Kansas is not a job to leave UF for unless you just want out. It seem like the best our play calling and offense looked under Muschamp was the first year till Brantley get injured in the BAMA game. I didn't understand why Roper came to UF , everyone seem to know it was a sinking ship and Muschamp was not going to let the OC run the offense .
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:51 am to
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tjv305


you must have been in the meeting rooms then? that's a crock....Boom didn't dictate the offensive scheme as some folks think. he did however dictate recruiting and it was defense first.

nobody brings up the fact that we went to a BCS bowl in his second year, the first year his sr qb goes down against Bama, the third year was a disaster from the get go with injuries and the fourth year plainly sucked ...but look at our coaching, OL coaches leaving,OCs leaving & umpteen wr coaches and then Leak tried to do something he wasnt ready for....number of reasons...we had the misfortune of having Jake McGee miss his fifth year after transferring and other than # 11 we had no passing attack.
It all falls at WMs feet and we will now have an offensive coach for a change...but what will happen to our defense in two or three years?
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:56 am to
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you must have been in the meeting rooms then? that's a crock....Boom didn't dictate the offensive scheme as some folks think. he did however dictate recruiting and it was defense first.


I think Powell made it patently clear what was happening behind closed doors. And we kind of expected that all along.

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nobody brings up the fact that we went to a BCS bowl in his second year


Because we got dominated by a Big East (then) team.

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the first year his sr qb goes down against Bama,


Brantley wasn't doing much to begin with, though.

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the third year was a disaster from the get go with injuries


Georgia was kind of in the same boat and seemed to do better than us.

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the fourth year plainly sucked


Yyyyyep, that one was pretty bad. No injuries, almost the same outcome.

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ut look at our coaching, OL coaches leaving,OCs leaving & umpteen wr coaches and then Leak tried to do something he wasnt ready for


Yeah, we had three offensive coordinators in four years -- that's bizarre. What else is bizarre is that they all had an eerily similar offense ran out of different formations.

Hence the square peg round hole analogies.

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It all falls at WMs feet and we will now have an offensive coach for a change...but what will happen to our defense in two or three years?


The same thing with Meyer -- it'll probably be a top ten defense.

The one thing Muschamp did good -- Meyer did well too. It's not like our defense has struggled before, and they won't struggle again.

Meyer left the defense in tip-top condition, and then? We get blown up by an FCS with literally no passes completed the entire game.

I think his finger was at least in the pudding, if not his entire hand at this point.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:15 pm to
Also, how ya been, Reel?
Posted by Rich Kotite
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:33 pm to
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but what will happen to our defense in two or three years?


Even last year, the defense gave up silly touchdowns too often. You should be more worried about how the offense is in two or three years, that's how bad your boy Muffcramp left it. How anyone can still make excuses for that clown baffles me.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 7:44 am to
Last year's defense was actually one of the worst units I've seen at Florida in a while.

They gave up way way way too many 3rd and longs, were constantly out of position on big plays, had no killer instinct, and hell - even the coaches had trouble substituting effectively. Alabama made UF look like a high school team.

It'll be interesting to see what the new coaches can do with this unit. Honestly, with a little bit better execution JUST ON DEFENSE last year, UF is probably 9-2 in the regular season.
This post was edited on 5/16/15 at 7:45 am
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/16/15 at 9:10 pm to
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They gave up way way way too many 3rd and longs


That was gonna give me heartburn, man.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 9:16 pm to
It was pathetic.

The Alabama game plan in particular on defense was one of the worst drawn up I've ever seen.

Will Muschamp and staff made Lane Kiffin look like a goddamn genius.

The coaches, 4 years in, couldn't even substitute properly.

And then, predictably, he blamed it on the players later.

And yeah, they cleaned it up some, but giving up big plays was something that unit did all year.

The 3rd and forever against LSU, AFTER A TIME OUT, was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen.

I bet, if the new coaches are half way decent, that the defense will be better in 2015, simply because the defense won't shite the bed CONSTANTLY when the game is on the line. Something the 2014 unit excelled at.

Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 7:55 pm to
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The 3rd and forever against LSU, AFTER A TIME OUT, was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen.



Timeouts and clock management were things Muschamp didn't seem to do very well.

Third and forever against Alabama? Don't even consider the screen pass.

Timeout against LSU? Don't matter.

How many times did we call a timeout just to have a delay of game? If these coaches make even slight differences, it will be a massive upgrade from what we had.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12506 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 5:19 pm to
UF seems to always have a good defense. Who is the last UF head coach to struggle on defense? If anything the new staff should be the best setup for the defense. We have a HC and OC who have shown they can control the clock by running the ball and score points. Just having a offense that moves the ball , scores some and doesn't kill it's self with turn overs would make the defense much better. Your right about UF going to a BCS bowl game in WMs second year . We had a lot of lucky close loses then we had bad luck the next year to go 4-8.
Posted by olemc999
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Member since Oct 2010
13256 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:15 pm to
2007 was the last UF team to struggle on defense. One of the worst I have ever seen actually. Mainly because they were inexperienced.
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