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Posted on 11/1/15 at 11:07 am
Posted on 11/1/15 at 11:07 am
vs. Vandy
@ South Carolina
vs. FAU
vs. FSU
vs. Ole Miss/Bama/LSU in SECCG
Unbelievable to think we have a legitimate shot at making the CFB playoff this year.
Way ahead of schedule.
Defense will lose Bullard, Davis, Morrison, and Hargreaves next year but the offense will be even better and Wilson/Tabor are still back in the secondary.
Its great to be a Florida Gator!
@ South Carolina
vs. FAU
vs. FSU
vs. Ole Miss/Bama/LSU in SECCG
Unbelievable to think we have a legitimate shot at making the CFB playoff this year.
Way ahead of schedule.
Defense will lose Bullard, Davis, Morrison, and Hargreaves next year but the offense will be even better and Wilson/Tabor are still back in the secondary.
Its great to be a Florida Gator!
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Posted on 11/1/15 at 11:19 am to boXerrumble
14-1
Posted on 11/1/15 at 11:35 am to olemc999
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14-1
Posted on 11/1/15 at 12:12 pm to boXerrumble
Looking ahead to next year - UF will be gutted on defense.
Bullard, Poole, and Morrison are graduating.
VH3 is auto NFL 1st rounder - he's gone.
Davis, McCalister, Neal, and Maye have all played well enough to make a run at the NFL if they want.
I would not be shocked if UF is replacing 8 starters. The depth at LB would be terrifying in that scenario, I don't think anyone on the team can replace Bullard right away, and I'm not sure if UF will have a consistent 4 man pass rush without McCallister and Bullard - although maybe CeCe with another year could be devestating.
With Anzalone's injury histroy, and Rolin having not played, the LB's would be perhaps Jeremi Powell - also always hurt, and Daniel McMillan? And the depth behind them would be ??????
The secondary would still be solid at corner - although the #2 guys would have literally zero experience. The safties would probably be Dawson, Washington, and Harris, none of which have been particularly great, although maybe an extra year of development takes them to the next level... maybe...
UF is going to take big big steps back on defense though, if people go pro that might be able to. I think UF has a chance to have a good defense again IF (BIG IF) a few of those potential early losses stay, most notably Jarrad Davis, Alex McCallister, and one of our two safties (Maye or Neal).
The offense should be WORLDS better though.
Bullard, Poole, and Morrison are graduating.
VH3 is auto NFL 1st rounder - he's gone.
Davis, McCalister, Neal, and Maye have all played well enough to make a run at the NFL if they want.
I would not be shocked if UF is replacing 8 starters. The depth at LB would be terrifying in that scenario, I don't think anyone on the team can replace Bullard right away, and I'm not sure if UF will have a consistent 4 man pass rush without McCallister and Bullard - although maybe CeCe with another year could be devestating.
With Anzalone's injury histroy, and Rolin having not played, the LB's would be perhaps Jeremi Powell - also always hurt, and Daniel McMillan? And the depth behind them would be ??????
The secondary would still be solid at corner - although the #2 guys would have literally zero experience. The safties would probably be Dawson, Washington, and Harris, none of which have been particularly great, although maybe an extra year of development takes them to the next level... maybe...
UF is going to take big big steps back on defense though, if people go pro that might be able to. I think UF has a chance to have a good defense again IF (BIG IF) a few of those potential early losses stay, most notably Jarrad Davis, Alex McCallister, and one of our two safties (Maye or Neal).
The offense should be WORLDS better though.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:38 pm to slayerxing
Disagree. I dont think we will have juniors depart other than Hargreaves 3. We have a LOT of depth on the DL...if you watch the game yesterday...we are playing a lot of guys like Sherit, Brantley who are underclassmen and add in other guys who have been playing all year or will next year even more:
CeCe Jefferson, Taven Bryan, Khairi Clark, Thomas Holley, Joey Ivie, Alex MacCallister (caused a pick that Hargreaves 3 got - he still needs weight put on and should stay), Justus Reed...that is 9 DL and then add in 2015 recruits Kelvonnis Davis (redshirted DE), not sure about Richerd Desir-Jones a DT, Joeys brother Andrew Ivie and Jabari Zuniga? Plus whoever we get on campus if ready to be a backup.
LB we need help, Anzalone, Jarrad Davis, Daniel McMillian and Jeremi Powell will all be seniors next year...dont know about Matt Rolin...he may not be able to continue playing? We need immediate help at LB for depth and grooming them for 2017. DBs we are loaded.
The defense will be about as good as they are now imo. The main thing is the DL...it starts there...and we are solid...dont worry.
CeCe Jefferson, Taven Bryan, Khairi Clark, Thomas Holley, Joey Ivie, Alex MacCallister (caused a pick that Hargreaves 3 got - he still needs weight put on and should stay), Justus Reed...that is 9 DL and then add in 2015 recruits Kelvonnis Davis (redshirted DE), not sure about Richerd Desir-Jones a DT, Joeys brother Andrew Ivie and Jabari Zuniga? Plus whoever we get on campus if ready to be a backup.
LB we need help, Anzalone, Jarrad Davis, Daniel McMillian and Jeremi Powell will all be seniors next year...dont know about Matt Rolin...he may not be able to continue playing? We need immediate help at LB for depth and grooming them for 2017. DBs we are loaded.
The defense will be about as good as they are now imo. The main thing is the DL...it starts there...and we are solid...dont worry.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 3:43 pm to reel_gator8
Desir-Jones is playing OL.
I'm hoping some juniors look at Bullard and Morrison and see they can make serious money if they come back. If Neal, Davis, McCallister and Maye come back, look out.
I'm hoping some juniors look at Bullard and Morrison and see they can make serious money if they come back. If Neal, Davis, McCallister and Maye come back, look out.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 4:00 pm to CJM
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If Neal, Davis, McCallister and Maye come back, look out.
McCallister would be crazy to leave with Bullard entering the draft period, and I haven't seen him too much in these past few games.
Davis won't go, that much I'm positive. Neal and Maye might go if they're unintelligent (they could easily go early next year, but I'm not sure how early they go this year).
It'll be interesting, but I'm also excited about our young players on defense coming out. We've been recruiting pretty well on both sides of the ball and feel more confident at a balanced team.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 4:10 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I read on scout Davis is getting 2nd round grades.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 4:17 pm to olemc999
That's shocking if true. He's really, really good against the run, but his size and coverage skills (or lack thereof) limit him in the NFL IMO.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 4:26 pm to CJM
Well people thought it was shocking that DJ Humphries was getting 1st round projections then he went first round. People also thought Matt Jones was dumb for leaving early and said he would an ufa at best and ended up 5th round and is the Redskins starter now. I've come to accept the fact that if the NFL scouts whisper in these kids ears what they are projected to go then they listen. Scouts look at these kids different then we as the fans do. I am an NFL draft junkie and it intrigues me how these guys get selected the way they do.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 7:13 pm to olemc999
Well...you never know what these kids think...but MacCallister is our best DE/pass rusher and he is almost 6'7" tall but came to UF as 215 lb toothpick...he is still lean and the NFL would be too much for him now...he needs another 15 lbs at least and a year more in weight room...he knows it. Davis, one of my favorite players...he is pure Gator...and remember that LB/RBs arent noteworthy anymore in college or NFL. Its speed and DBs that take up roster spots because of the passing game. LBs sit while DBs are deployed in dime packages more and more.
When kids leave early and dont make it...they risk driving beer trucks for a living...some will keep trying and honestly some do make it after two years of try outs and and working at it...but they are dumb to waste that senior year in college...
NFL has short shelf life and they need to be sure they are 1) drafted 2) drafted high enough that the team will want to protect their investment 3) are truly ready for the work force and realize the pro players arent treated as students and they need to be responsible for themselves and many have g/f and kids.
When kids leave early and dont make it...they risk driving beer trucks for a living...some will keep trying and honestly some do make it after two years of try outs and and working at it...but they are dumb to waste that senior year in college...
NFL has short shelf life and they need to be sure they are 1) drafted 2) drafted high enough that the team will want to protect their investment 3) are truly ready for the work force and realize the pro players arent treated as students and they need to be responsible for themselves and many have g/f and kids.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 8:16 pm to reel_gator8
Hopefully we ll have #7 back for the opener. Treon gets us by but he misses alot of easy throws.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 6:31 am to reel_gator8
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he needs another 15 lbs at least and a year more in weight room
Even with that beingthe case this is a really hard argument to sell. UF has good trainers and nutritionists etc, but if he grades to the first round he will put more muscle on in an NFL weight room than at UF. Not having to go to class or study makes a pretty big difference in the time you can put in at the gym.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:15 am to olemc999
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14-1
Posted on 11/2/15 at 11:59 am to AesopsGators
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AesopsGators
Its not just the weight...and I did state that 15lbs is the least he needs to gain. I have been up close to him more than a few times when he was true frosh...when he turned sideways he didnt cast a shadow he was so thin...but I saw the potential he had...he had to r/s and then as a frosh put in spot duty and then he started getting more snaps as r/s soph....and didnt play much until midway through the season. He is still a diamond in the rough. He can start getting a lot of recognition next year and really increase his stock...he knows it. Most of these kids need jingle in their pockets and I hate seeing them sell out to the pros cheap. Big $$ difference between 3-4th round and 1st round money.
His arms are enormous and I cant believe its taken this long (UGA game) to see him partially get hands on the ball just as QB was going to throw and get a pick out of it. Look at the replay and you will see he was away from QB and reached out that wingspan.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 12:22 pm to reel_gator8
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reel_gator8
3-4 round money is huge and I agree about going cheap then having to renegotiate. That's why I said if he can grade to first round then he needs to bolt. I look at someone like Bullard. He added zeroes to his contract by staying that extra year for sure. But imo anyone that grades firt round should always go. No reason to risk the injury - too many freak things happen in football.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 2:49 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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McCallister would be crazy to leave with Bullard entering the draft period, and I haven't seen him too much in these past few games.
He caused the tipped pass that wobbled right into VH3's hands.
We can actually afford to lose 5-6 of those 8 and still be alright next year given our easy schedule in 2016
Posted on 11/2/15 at 3:03 pm to gatorguru
Alex McCalister has been quiet recently, but is still UF's most disruptive edge player. He projects as a LB at the next level, but has a lot of desirable measurables. He is tall, and very fast. He has some issues holding up against the run, and yes he needs to continue to get stronger. Still - he has 6.5 TFL and 4 sacks right now, plus 7 QBH - I would not be shocked in the least if he took his services to the NFL.
Jarrad Davis has put together an ALL-SEC type season. He has shown great speed and aggressiveness. He has 55 tackles, 7.5 TFL, 1.5 sacks, and has 3 passes defended with 4 more regular season games to go. He has been one of UF's best players this year, and he will definitely test the draft waters, especially given his speed at 6'2, 230.
Keanu Neal is a damn beast. He is pretty much the only player I've seen all year that could tackle Leonard Fournette one on one consistently. He is 6'1, 215, and can run like a deer. He is built like a brick shite house too. In the world of the NFL, where measurables are so much, he could easily go pro.
Marcus Maye is probably the one player that I think is the most likely to come back. he isn't as big as Neal, just 6'0, 205, but in a defense that plays with a lot of nickel guys, he would be a great fit because of his defense against the run, but like I said, in the NFL, he may be a bit small. We'll see.
I think we are all underestimating how good these guys are this year, and a lot of them might want to make some money next year.
Jarrad Davis has put together an ALL-SEC type season. He has shown great speed and aggressiveness. He has 55 tackles, 7.5 TFL, 1.5 sacks, and has 3 passes defended with 4 more regular season games to go. He has been one of UF's best players this year, and he will definitely test the draft waters, especially given his speed at 6'2, 230.
Keanu Neal is a damn beast. He is pretty much the only player I've seen all year that could tackle Leonard Fournette one on one consistently. He is 6'1, 215, and can run like a deer. He is built like a brick shite house too. In the world of the NFL, where measurables are so much, he could easily go pro.
Marcus Maye is probably the one player that I think is the most likely to come back. he isn't as big as Neal, just 6'0, 205, but in a defense that plays with a lot of nickel guys, he would be a great fit because of his defense against the run, but like I said, in the NFL, he may be a bit small. We'll see.
I think we are all underestimating how good these guys are this year, and a lot of them might want to make some money next year.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:52 am to slayerxing
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I don't think anyone on the team can replace Bullard right away
I think Bullard has been better than Fowler was and probably better than Easley (unfair because Easley couldn't stay healthy).
Everyone knows he's a beast, but I'm not sure he's quite gotten enough respect. He's been unstoppable. Lives in the backfield.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:27 am to broeho
Bullard is a beast...the pros know all about him. Double teamed a lot and he just pushes them back into the QB. Has a higher motor than a lot of folks realize...and makes tackles away from the line of scrimmage. Fowler & Easley had warp speed and that was their trump card. Bullard should be a first rounder along with Hargreaves3.
Cox, Brantley, Ivie, J. Reed, Jefferson, MacCallister, Sherit all have ability to be very disruptive next year. We're good there on the DL.
LB is a dire need for 2017 and we need to recruit some good ones now. LB is a position that first year players rarely do much...and Im talking run support...not rushing the passer.
It concerns me that Quincy Wilson is still not ready to take over a CB spot....he bit on the play action against UGA and Mitchell was streaking downfield (watched replay last night) and if Bauta hadnt of been slapped on the hand by MacCallister....it would have probably been six.
Cox, Brantley, Ivie, J. Reed, Jefferson, MacCallister, Sherit all have ability to be very disruptive next year. We're good there on the DL.
LB is a dire need for 2017 and we need to recruit some good ones now. LB is a position that first year players rarely do much...and Im talking run support...not rushing the passer.
It concerns me that Quincy Wilson is still not ready to take over a CB spot....he bit on the play action against UGA and Mitchell was streaking downfield (watched replay last night) and if Bauta hadnt of been slapped on the hand by MacCallister....it would have probably been six.
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