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re: 3-1 Postgame Thread

Posted on 9/25/16 at 9:58 pm to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 9/25/16 at 9:58 pm to
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boXerrumble


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2017 is the year UF should be back.


Why are we the only two with any sense? If other posters have said this, then I'm sorry for excluding you but -- damn guys.

We haven't had a QB start consecutive years under Mac and honestly, he can't know what he has at QB until the end of this year. Some people say that Appleby was head and shoulders above Del Rio, I don't really know about that. He played a damn good game but frick.

frick guys. It's game four. Calm. Down. Jesus Christ.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:17 pm to
Tell em Straw
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 10:25 pm to
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Tell em Straw


Young dudes who jumped on not remembering FSU scoring 28 unanswered points in one quarter. It's like these guys never watch football.

This literally happens all the time. You get ahead, you get sluggish, the other team makes some magic and you lose because you just can't get the traction going anymore.

The rest of the games on our schedule are winnable, and we've had two years where we suffered losses and went on to win it all.

Not saying it's even remotely like that this year, but giving up on a coach because he lost in a hostile environment on a win streak that the other team wanted so badly.

Their fans were crying, literally with joy. They deserved to win, and it's really just football. We got outcoached, outplayed and outhustled after beating the hell out of them.

I guarantee this makes them play way harder the rest of the year.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:24 am to
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Young dudes who jumped on not remembering FSU scoring 28 unanswered points in one quarter

spurrier didn't lose that game. he tied. better than losing in my opinion.
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11428 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:39 am to
I am right there with you reel. I lived through the years when we had bad coaches, bad teams, celebrated a 6 win seasons. We tore the goalposts down in Jacksonville in 1984 because UG had whipped our asses for so long and we finally got a win.
Most younger fans only know about the 90's when we had great success but also blew some big games, and the even younger ones only know about the Tebow years, when we won and loss some big games. Sadly some of them think you are just supposed to roll your helmet and on the field and when the other team sees the Gators on the side they will just roll over. (by the way, lose the white helmets)
It's hard to win and even tougher in the SEC than other conferences, blasting the coaches and players because we lose a game doesn't' help. In all kinds of weather, we'll all stick together is not understood by the younger generation. They feel the motto should be, What have you done for me lately? My grandfather had season tickets for over 50 years. He died in 1995. He never saw a National Championship in his 84 years of being a Gator fan, but he went to every home game a supported the coaches and the team. Go Gators.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:21 pm to
Sorry your grandfather didnt get to witness 1996. As you know its hard to describe the suffering Gators went through in 60s-80s...no SEC title with only ten teams...but we played UGA & AU back to back every year. The NCAA probation made Bowden an NC coach.

White helmuts are nice IF worn with blue jerseys imo.

Spurrier left UF after 2001 and one of the reasons were the younger fans who bitched and moaned after a loss...he said it too. They wouldnt attack Spurrier but always complained about defensive coaches since Spurrier was untouchable and an icon. He got tired of it.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 5:58 pm to
2017 is the year we should be back. That's the argument you guys are making right? So next year if the defense kind of sucks (and it might because we'll return 3-5 starters at most), you wont use 2007 being Meyer's 3rd year as an analogy to excuse things right?

I just want to set a goalpost because I have a feeling this year we have a far, far better chance at breaking through than next year given the how much talent we lose and how little Mac has brought in.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 6:30 pm to
Agreed completely this year's team and schedule set up nicely. Outside of the O returning pretty much in tact, we'll have freshman/sophomores all over the field on defense. The OL still looks like it did most of last year. A below average OL won't get better just because they're older and it will handcuff the offense against P5 teams. We need more talent and better coaching all over the tean. The difference on defense being we won't have a Carlos Dunlap, Spikes, Wright, Cunningham, Black or Haden talent. It will be full of 3 stars. Harbaugh is going to beat us like a drum.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:20 am to
Better look again at the roster and you will see a LOT of talent on defense returning next year....especially the DL and I think LB will be good...Anzalone returns, Reese,Joseph & Moon are going to be very good and Reese is getting a lot of snaps now....Moon has hand injury. Putu. Chauncey, Nick Washington, Duke Dawson, Marcell Harris and maybe a true frosh will be awesome....plus our offense returns and should be a real strength.

And our schedule allows for early game with UT to be at home and we can start another win streak against them.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:53 am to
If UF isn't 6-1 in 3 weeks, I will be worried, but as of now, all that happened is that UF lost to one of the better teams in the SEC on the road, and it's not like that hasn't happened before.

The way it went down is concerning, and I've commented repeatedly about how I was unhappy with the close of last year, but I don't think we should be talking about jumping ship yet 4 games into year 2 of the regime.


Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:10 am to
That's fair, honestly overall he's done a good job its just the way things ended last year makes what happened Saturday seem worse than it might actually be.
Posted by BasedGator
Member since Sep 2012
391 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:17 am to
People really just don't appreciate the situation we have had OL. It's not necessarily about talent, but numbers and experience. There were just so few guys that Muschamp left, that Mac couldn't even try to develop those. He has to rely on the sophomores and freshmen he recruited.

Sharpe was one of Muschamp's star recruits. While he is definitely athletically elite, he is hit or miss actually playing the position. I think he'd rather be playing basketball.

OL is also the position that takes the longest to recover from.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:54 am to
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People really just don't appreciate the situation we have had OL. It's not necessarily about talent, but numbers and experience. There were just so few guys that Muschamp left, that Mac couldn't even try to develop those. He has to rely on the sophomores and freshmen he recruited.

Sharpe was one of Muschamp's star recruits. While he is definitely athletically elite, he is hit or miss actually playing the position. I think he'd rather be playing basketball.

OL is also the position that takes the longest to recover from.



Eh....I worry about the DL next season-- like OL you don't often grab freshman who can play regardless of talent level just due to physical development-- DT could be really light.

Speaking of DL, can someone please explain to me why we've decided to shift a freshman All-American level DE to 4th string DT?

Free CeCe!
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 12:50 pm to
Worry about the DL next year? Heck no, Im not worried, you need to look at roster a little closer and I guess I have to spell it all out for you Making me work!

Brantley is a jr but maybe (or maybe not leaves)
Joey Ivie is a sr (only sr on DL besides Cox jr))

Taven Bryant will be a jr
Khairi Clark will also be a jr
Keivonnis Davis will be a jr
CeCe Jefferson will be a jr
Justus Reed will be a jr
Jordan Sherit will be a sr
Jordan Smith may r/s as a true frosh this year?
Jabari Zuniga will be a soph
Antonneous Clayton claims on another site that he wont r/s and has the coaches ready to play after busting his butt as a true frosh
Jachal Polite will be a soph

thats 10 back next year...a problem? Naw and any true frosh we might get in Feb or JUCO in January..we good.

And theres really no starters on the DL, they basically all play and I dont think CeCe has a problem with it.
Look ar RB...Thompson has started the last 3 games and the ball is shared.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 2:23 pm to
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And theres really no starters on the DL, they basically all play and I dont think CeCe has a problem with it.
Look ar RB...Thompson has started the last 3 games and the ball is shared.






Right, but my problem with CeCe is more- why move him inside? It's like if we decided to make Calloway a tight end and rotated him on and off the field because he wasn't as good at TE as he is at WR.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:30 pm to
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People really just don't appreciate the situation we have had OL. It's not necessarily about talent, but numbers and experience. There were just so few guys that Muschamp left, that Mac couldn't even try to develop those. He has to rely on the sophomores and freshmen he recruited.


It's people who just don't look at it from that level. A halfway decent Oline takes at least two years to develop and Muschamp literally left us with like, two upper classmen who were on the Oline total.

People don't realize that teams like Alabama who have 11 upper classmen at line wherein we have 3.
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