Ya'll are over analyzing things

pls stfu

no one is giving up on the coaches and we are all aware of our problems

and don't compare us to Arkansas

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This team has more issues than shitty QBs

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This.

I will say that I have probably been Orth's biggest defender on here. He can throw a pretty pass with touch at times but then the bad Orth shows up. He is a terrible option to run our offense's read option part because he will never keep the ball and run it when the read is there to keep it and run it. His time as a starter has come to an end imho after watching last night. Granted our Oline is way more inept than he is but he can't adjust to whats going on and so it's time for us to stick Bmac in and take our lumps with "freshman" mistakes because he runs the offense more fluidly even with his mistakes.

We are terribly thin all across the board depth-wise but no where near the thinness of our Oline. They are horrible. We have good receivers and our offense is struggling to get them the ball and we have no backup for AJ Turner.

While the defense is improved they can not overcome our inept offense and they will be well conditioned this year because they will be playing A LOT in every game.

We were prison raped by msu last night and a freshman QB. I can deal with getting beat but the effort that was shown in the vandy game did not show up constantly last night, it was here or there or not at all. Playing young guys will do that but hopefully it becomes a very good reality check for a team that was riding high from the vandy win. That is exactly what slacking up looks like and the coaches will do well to point to the msu week and game as future motivation of what happens when you do not keep your head to the grindstone.

Tough to swallow a beating like that but we knew going into this year that we will have WTF games and moments and we aren't going to be that good. The only way we move to a 6-6 or 7-5 is by busting arse all year long.

msu suffered from that last week in south alabama and it showed in their improvement last night. They followed through with fakes, they stayed aggressive, they took nothing for granted. Our guys looked lost, were constantly faked out, and did not respect msu as a solid team and we paid the price for it.

It's easy when you're winning, lets see if the coaches can refocus these guys going into the next game. That is the measurement and difference between good coaches and what we had last year.

I agree that it is mostly on Orths ability. We tackled at a shitty level the 1st half but then improved the defense in tge 2ns half reulting in only allowing 3 pts.

The OL poorly executed yesterday as well. They know that and admitted it. I think we will see a different level of energy/focus from them going forward.

Orth really doesn't have a chance back there with the OLine he's having to play with and the lack of playmakers around him.

McIlwain just fits what Roper is trying to do better with the read option & QB run element of the offense, he's also mobile so he can mask or deal with the OLine deficiencies because he's so mobile.

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This team has more issues than shitty QBs

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O Line was garbage. Read Option didn't work because Orth can't run and O line can't block for the backs.
Orth cannot throw either. So many passes thrown off target.
Felt like I was watching A&M play us in 2014. So many arm tackles broken and players just blindly throwing themselves in for tackles. Embarrassing.

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I am starting to think that Elliot was kept on for 2 reasons. 1. He was probably the best choice to help transition the team into a completely new staff because he had a good foundation with all of the guys. 2. The guy WM wanted as Oline coach was not available or there were no other suitable options at the time.

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I can tell you exactly why Elliott was kept-on ... and it's not pretty.

1 - Because he is a master bullshitter.
2 - Because Muschamp could not find anyone better in a short period of time who had decent recruiting skills in this neck of the woods.
3 - He knows where a skeleton is buried.
4 - And finally, most importantly, Jeff Dillman played a key role in convincing Muschamp to keep him on board. Dillman, who is very close with Muschamp, and Elliott go way back to their App State days together.
5 - Elliott played the hometown-boy card and actually finagled it into a raise ... which left many of us shaking our heads in disbelief.

I do believe his days of back-stabbing and manipulation, in order to climb the ladder, are just about numbered though ... it's all about to catch-up with him this season it would appear. Some of the guys he used to work with on the old staff ... they'll be happy to see him eventually get his comeuppance.

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He knows where a skeleton is buried.

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If we have a bagman, he better be going to get some refunds judging by the talent on the field Saturday night.

Well at least I wasn't completely wrong.

Thanks for the info

I take the with a grain of salt. We have had 5 OL drafted on the past 5 drafts. Before that we had 5 OL drafted from 1993 to 2009...17 years.

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