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Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:53 am
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:53 am
So game week is finally here.
Here's a good look at NC State's defense according to the Raleigh Observer: LINK
Be sure to keep scrolling through the ads all the way to the bottom.
Our offense is going to have its hands full.
Here's a good look at NC State's defense according to the Raleigh Observer: LINK
Be sure to keep scrolling through the ads all the way to the bottom.
Our offense is going to have its hands full.
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:15 am to scrooster
The kids that were kicked off and suspended...I believe there were a total of 5...any of them on defense?
Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:38 am to Carolina_Girl
Not sure I'll find out...I think this game will be tough but quick passes and rb depth push us over
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:14 am to Carolina_Girl
I think they were all freshman
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:57 pm to Carolina_Girl
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The kids that were kicked off and suspended...I believe there were a total of 5...any of them on defense?
They were all frosh dumbasses ... put themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time. From what I've read none of them were on the two deep. Four were projected as redshirts. But you bring-up a good point that begs the question; Will any of this affect team chemistry?
I tend to doubt that it will. I was thinking in terms of if the same thing had happened to us and I came to the conclusion, IMHO, that freshmen who have yet to entrench themselves into the team organism are pretty-much invisible to upperclassmen in the first place. New meat so-to-speak. The most it might affect is scout team depth which may affect practice competition but I even doubt that the more I've thought about it.
NC State is an experienced team with a lot of 3rd, 4th and 5th year players on the two deep.
They will be without a key member of their seconds come Saturday - it's been announced today. But evidently they've been aware of the possibility for awhile so they've had time to make adjustments by moving a former WR over to the secondary where, apparently, they are as thin as are we. LINK
Here's some in-depth background on their offense. LINK
Posted on 8/27/17 at 4:29 pm to scrooster
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They were all frosh dumbasses
I, vaguely, remember what it was like to be 18 and on campus. Oh the things I did then I wouldn't do now. Which is pretty much everything come to think of it.
The thin secondary will play a big factor for NC State. Missouri and South Carolina in the East are the two teams you can't afford to have a weak link in the secondary. I am sure NC State has made adjustments but you get to a point where you putting players on the field you know that can't compete at this level.
You don't want to do that against this year's Gamecocks.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 4:32 pm to Arksulli
Their front 7 can make up for a shaky secondary if our line isn't improved
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 8/27/17 at 4:39 pm to mikeboss550
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Their front 7 can make up for a shaky secondary if our line isn't improved
I feel your pain. The pass protection last year for Arkansas... lets just not talk about it.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 5:29 pm to scrooster
Tropical storm watches have been issued (as of 2 hrs ago) for SC and NC coasts due to expected development of Irma in the Atlantic. Hope this doesn't impact our game.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 6:11 pm to Carolina_Girl
Another NC St hurricane game awesome
Posted on 8/27/17 at 6:15 pm to mikeboss550
Tried to link this but ... iPad is giving me fits today.
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When: 3 p.m. Saturday
Where: Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte
TV: ESPN
Line: N.C. State by 6
Three story lines
1. The Wolfpack has an NFL-esque defensive line stocked with next-level talent. That matches a Gamecocks offensive front looking to reverse a two-year trend of struggles. If USC can’t hold up, it’ll be a long day.
2. If the South Carolina front can hold up, the Wolfpack secondary is replacing four of its top six players from last season. That could open the door for the likes of Jake Bentley, Deebo Samuel, Bryan Edwards and Hayden Hurst.
3. The offseason talk for South Carolina’s defense has been a unit that will throw a lot of new players into the fire. The N.C. State offense has enough pieces to be somewhat dangerous, but was hardly a world-beating unit last season before it lost a bellcow runner.
Three players to watch
1. Senior tight end Jaylen Samuels led the Wolfpack with 55 receptions and seven touchdowns through the air, rushed for six scores and led the team in yards per carry.That might understate his impact. He’s a guy who can line up anywhere and a player the Gamecocks will have to track.
2. Junior quarterback Ryan Finley was the epitome of solid in 2016. He threw for 3,055 yards, 18 touchdowns, eight interceptions, completed about 60 percent of his passes and avoided sacks. Some have him projected for a big jump.
3. Picking a top N.C. State defensive lineman is like picking the best ice cream flavor, but senior defensive end Bradley Chubb isn’t a bad choice. He tied for 15th nationally in sacks (10) and fourth in tackles for loss (22 1/2) to lead a nasty group.
Scouting report
? The N.C. State defense gets most of the hype and for good reason. The foursome up front of Kentavius Street, B.J. Hill, Justin Jones and Bradley Chubb combined for 19.5 sacks and 39 1/2 tackles for loss. Then reserve Darian Roseboro had seven sacks and 11 1/2 tackles for loss.
? Dave Doeren’s teams historically were pure 4-3 with a bend-but-don’t-break style. But the past two years, that’s flipped. His 2016 unit was better at short-circuiting opposing drives and a bit more vulnerable to big plays. It also relies heavily on nickel personnel, as is standard across the sport. According to some metrics, the unit was top 15, and it closed things down against the run.
? The continuity in the front six is impressive, but the Wolfpack will be replacing four of its top six defensive backs.
? The Wolfpack attack is nothing if not quirky. It was in the hands of the highly creative Matt Canada and then transitioned to Eliah Drinkwitz, whose background is with Auburn’s Gus Malzahn and Boise State’s Brian Harsin. The offense wasn’t a world beater last season, but it was interesting.
? N.C. State will mix spread and power formations, often lining up backs in the pistol and deploying a range of tight ends or extra backs. That’s all part of a strong perimeter run game.
? The most notable of those is Jaylen Samuels, an H-back who plays all over the field. He was the team’s top pass catcher, mostly on shorter stuff, its most explosive rusher and a solid blocker. He scored 13 rushing or receiving touchdowns.
? Quarterback Ryan Finley is a solid option at the helm of the offense. He avoided interceptions, could run just enough that a defense had to think about him and do what was asked.
? The biggest question will be how N.C. State makes up for the loss of Matthew Dayes, a productive workhorse who ran for 1,166 yards and accounted for just short of half the team’s carries. There are options, but none who got much work in 2016
Posted on 8/27/17 at 6:51 pm to scrooster
There cb with the most experience is out for the game with injury
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:36 pm to Carolina_Girl
I think that storm is expected to be well out of the area by Wednesday. I was in Raleigh in 1999, and that was the single most miserable that I've ever been at a game. At LSU in 2007 is a close second.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:27 pm to UpstateCock2007
I was there too. Sitting with the Joneses in the waterfall .... we were robbed. Philip was called off sides and that was that. I elluded to that game earlier ... think of how different 1999 would have turned-out had we won that game.
This year is very similar in that regard. That's how important this game is IMHO.
This year is very similar in that regard. That's how important this game is IMHO.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:44 pm to scrooster
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This year is very similar in that regard. That's how important this game is IMHO.
I'm really excited for this game but also very nervous, which is par for the course for me prior to Gamecocks games. We notoriously play flat in opening games and my liver has called me an a-hole the day after many times because of it. I expect it to be an absolute battle either way it turns out.
I just hope for it to turn out in our favor.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 12:17 am to mikeboss550
Mama nature doesn't like football apparently. Bitch.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 6:30 am to scrooster
Tony over at 247 reported this morning that within the program at the moment, they are more worried about the matchup between their OL and our DL than the one getting the most press, Their DL vs our OL.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 6:44 am to GameCocky88
I was under the impression Wolford had made substantial improvements in our OL?
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:01 am to Carolina_Girl
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Interestingly, one source I spoke with recently is more concerned about how South Carolina’s defensive line matches up with than the N.C. State offensive line than the offensive line matches up with their talented defensive front. That is not to say the staff thinks the offensive line can get the best of the Wolfpack defensive line, but they do think the offensive line can hold up better and give Jake Bentley some time and open up enough room for the running backs to at least churn out tough yardage
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:13 am to mikeboss550
Lol...I had a temporary moment of subject dyslexia, apparently. I was reading it the opposite way. I hate mornings. I blame that. 
So basically Wolford has improved our OL substantially from last year. He is obviously a very talented coach. Someone is gonna come along and try to poach him from us.
So basically Wolford has improved our OL substantially from last year. He is obviously a very talented coach. Someone is gonna come along and try to poach him from us.
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