OT - Deer Hunting in SC - Proposed Law Change

Who cares about hunting experience, I just want to kill to have lean meat in the freezer. Most hunting clubs have their limit on what to kill as far as antler width, so why should the government intervene? Fact is the state is overpopulated, why limit what you kill?

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Sounds like someone is a shitty hunter.

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How does what he posted make him a shitty hunter?

Many people I know hunt for the meat ... and they are damn good at it. It is neither a "cool hunting experience," (which, btw, is politician schpeak for luring out-of-state hunters into the state), nor is it a matter of wanting to spend hours and days out in the woods trying to bag a trophy buck.

It's about meat in the freezer.

A lot of us were raised on wild game - that and we raised our own. I was in high school before I ever ate my first store-bought meat and I thought it tasted funny even then.

Now, with regard to CiyE's original question ... it's been coming for awhile. The big hunting clubs have been screaming for this for decades - and the clubs for profit, the ones catering to the out-of-state hunters, especially those who have supervised pig and yote hunts along with planted quail, etc., ... that lobby has been pushing for this for awhile.

I have to admit I have noticed a troubling trend in recent years, maybe the past decade, where hunters, especially the kids, are taking smaller bucks - and it's not always for the meat although they claim they make sure the meat goes to someone who wants it.

My son and I took four last year, including a couple the weekend of the Mizzou game, plus a bunch of catfish. They changed the trotline laws a couple of years ago so that now you can only have one tag ... used to be three for decades. But they say that limiting trotlines to one tag with 50 hooks allows for more trophy catfish to grow ... which is absolute bullshite. It's all about luring the out-of-state bass, crappy, bream, shellcracker and stripper fishermen to the state and then turning-them-on to our outstanding catfish while they are hear. Some even say the world record blue cat may be lurking in the Tailrace canal right now.

It's all about money, tourist money, taxes and politics.

Meanwhile, we took three decent young bucks and one nice doe last season and felt lucky to put 180 pds of dressed venison in the freezer.

When I was a kid, in my family, we'd take a minimum of a buck a week during season ... and they were definitely bigger back then, above the fall line anyways. Lowcountry deer have always been smallish while Barnwell and O-Burg counties, Newberry, Sumter, Pickens, even Saluda and Lexington counties back then ... all used to produce some nice-sized whities, and still do from time to time.

One of my oldest dearest friends owns a few thousand acres up in North Carolina ... he was named "Game Manager of the Year" by Ruger a few years ago ... they gave him a nice shotgun if I remember correctly and he was in a couple of sportsman magazines.

Anyways, he swears that proper game management is the only way to bigger trophy bucks. He's been saying this was needed in SC for years now. So I guess I'm on board with his opinion ... time to reel it in I suppose. Too many people out there abusing the privilege these days unfortunately. I know for a fact, based upon what a couple of buddies of mine in the area that own deer processing stations have been telling me ... the kids are harvesting smaller and smaller deer every year, although there are more of them.

Also, the coyotes have take their toll as well ... and some claim the pigs, but I'm not sure I'm falling for that.

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Fact is the state is overpopulated, why limit what you kill? 

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Do you understand how to manage a population? I can tell you shooting bucks doesn't help with the "overpopulation"

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Do you understand how to manage a population? I can tell you shooting bucks doesn't help with the "overpopulation"

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That's true ... and I agreed with that based upon what my game management buddy in NC says.

So, again, which part of my post gave me the bad rap and proved me to be fricking trashy, slick.

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Also ... you live in SC correct? You have a say-so in this? You're a Gamecock fan, in this forum, who lives in SC and has a legit dog in this fight? 

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Don't live in SC, but own several hundred acres in SC. I feel my tax dollars have a say-so , yes. Nope, not a cock fan, but I do have a dog.

So are you going to get to the part where you explain the reasoning behind your insults, or are you going to pussyfoot around like a UGA fan when you mention arrest records?

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Don't live in SC, but own several hundred acres in SC. I feel my tax dollars have a say-so , yes. Nope, not a cock fan, but I do have a dog.

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So again I'll ask, which part of my post do you feel gave me the bad rap ... you know, the fricking trashy part?

And if you own several hundred acres in this state then you're also married to Andie McDowell. But that's another discussion altogether.

Again, which part of my post do you feel gave me the bad rap ... you know, the fricking trashy part?

And if you are not a Gamecock fan, yet you are in this forum, then which program is it that you do choose to show your allegiance?

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CNB, this is complete trash. Every hunt I've ever went on is "a cool hunting experience " if it wasn't wtf is the point? Just to kill? Why wouldn't you shoot a doe for meat? Why shoot a buck of you aren't gonna put it on the wall? Yall have no idea how much the "hunters" in SC are frickin shite up blasting all of these small bucks just to kill. It's sad really.

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Okay ... so you're not man enough to address me personally even though your little young punk arse directed the insult at me personally.

I instantly know you're full of shite. Wanna know why?

Easy answer. You chose to selectively quote what I typed. That's a serious character flaw.

What I typed was this:

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Many people I know hunt for the meat ... and they are damn good at it. It is neither a "cool hunting experience," (which, btw, is politician schpeak for luring out-of-state hunters into the state), nor is it a matter of wanting to spend hours and days out in the woods trying to bag a trophy buck.

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So, there is nothing wrong with hunting for the meat. Lots of people do it - many people feel that hunting is not sport, but subsistence. I genuinely tried to make myself clear about that.

Trophy hunting on the other hand .. I find it to be a less than honorable endeavor. You, as you have already stated, are a trophy hunter ... one who hunts for the sheer trophy, the size of a buck's rack.

I've got no use for you young man.

As I stated earlier, I do agree that it is time to regulate the taking of white tails in this state. I think I was pretty clear about that when I typed the following:

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One of my oldest dearest friends owns a few thousand acres up in North Carolina ... he was named "Game Manager of the Year" by Ruger a few years ago ... they gave him a nice shotgun if I remember correctly and he was in a couple of sportsman magazines.

Anyways, he swears that proper game management is the only way to bigger trophy bucks. He's been saying this was needed in SC for years now. So I guess I'm on board with his opinion ... time to reel it in I suppose. Too many people out there abusing the privilege these days unfortunately. I know for a fact, based upon what a couple of buddies of mine in the area that own deer processing stations have been telling me ... the kids are harvesting smaller and smaller deer every year, although there are more of them.

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Oh, and I do own land in SC ... some say lots of it although it's really not that much. Most of it is hayfields, coastal Bermuda, some beans here and there, and a little corn and some peach trees. I leave a lot for the deer and birds every year, although the pigs have become troublesome in a couple of the counties where I farm. It's just an old man's hobby these days ... something to do. My son likes cutting and bailing hay. I like my bee hives most of all.

I hope Chip and Ross' Bill passes. I've called the guys I know in our Senate and House to encourage them to help it pass and I think it will from what I am hearing. I'd like to see more 150 pt bucks in the state, but it is going to take more than just tagging all kills and putting limits on the bucks taken. Even with limits it's still a judgement call by the hunter as to whether or not he wants to waste his tag on a smaller buck ... it's a gamble.

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I'm not reading your wall of text, but I know shite when I smell it. I've seen your post in the past and know you like to flaunt your new money around. It's cool, but don't think you can be a fraud and try and pass yourself off as a sportsman, that's ludicrous. You're just trash with "cash" as you claim. Now go and sit quietly in you cockabus while the grownups have a conversation. .

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Okay, yessir. :)

Firstly I don't shoot up young bucks just to kill. In fact I don't think I've killed any buck with a spread less than 15 inches since I was in high school. Usually I kill more does than bucks. I may kill 8-10 deer total with 1/3being bucks.

Secondly, if it's my property I'm hunting, who should give a frick what I kill if it's my property? It's my tax dollars too.