Holbrook question

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I'm trying to figure out if making out to Omaha would justify his return or would some wins there also be required.

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I dislike Holbrook as much as anyone, and I want him gone before he drives the program even further into the ground. That said, if somehow he gets the team to Omaha, I don't see how he can be fired. I don't think he even has to win a game there, just don't be on the end of any North Carolina type scores while he's out there.

Oh for sure. I wasn't implying that Frank was ever near the level of hot seatedness that Holbrook is at. I was trying to get a feel for if post season accomplishments would get him a pass on the regular season and if so what that would have to be.

According to Rooster and another poster from another site, the following steps have been taken.

Holbrooks extension that was supposed to go to 2019 has been reduced to 2018. They also cut his buyout by 50%. Basically that tells me that #1 if he doesn't get it done next season, he's out and #2 if they find someone they believe in before then the he may be out before then. Rooster said he'd definitely be back next season but if his contract expires then anyway IDK why a reduction of a buyout would have been necessary.

After reaching the Supers (which we hosted) last season, I was more inclined to hope that Holbrook, who was a young coach in charge of his first program, was developing himself as a capable HC as much as he was developing his program. So I defended him to a degree, with a hopeful patience.

But I'm not in that place anymore. With Martin, he took over a program that under Horn was poorly coached, that scored less and allowed more scored with each passing season. Martin started with little next to nothing, and I can clearly see logic and a working philosophy in playing competitive basketball, even if often he doesn't have the talent necessary to play it at a high level, or sometimes they just fail to do so.

When Horn asked his players to play as he wanted them to, and they did, it was often sloppy and undisciplined and seemed like there were no set plays or a team understanding of how to work open, high-percentage shot opportunities. With Martin's early teams, it seemed similar, but as the seasons progressed I saw more discipline and philosophy.

After the 2013-14 season which was Martin's 2nd at USC, and the final 4-2 run the team went on after going 10-18 prior, I saw for the first time some team discipline and team-wide understanding of how they can play winning basketball that I rarely saw under Horn. The MBB team has gone 17-16, 25-9, and 26-11 since then. CFM knows how to develop a MBB program.

With Holbrook, I am sadly doubtful that he can do the job now. He is now talking about player injuries in all of his pressers, tryign to spin the season on falling apart because of it. But for most of the season - well into the SEC conference schedule - all we had was Johnson miss some time. And Tyler was a huge loss for the team for that time, but even before then, the team has been a poor team defensively, a poor team hitting at the plate, and the coaching decisions on baserunners, bunting, and pitching changes have been very poor.

The best aspect of the team during Holbrook's tenure has been the pitching, and that's Meyers' area of responsibility.

Holbrook's stubbornness to stick with team bunting without teaching it properly, to have batters swing free early in pitching counts, etc. even when those things have hurt the team's chances to win games, tells me he is just in over his head. And unlike CFM who knows what its all about, Holbrook's teams aren't getting any better or more fundamentally disciplined: they just keep doing the same bad things...