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Henry Jones Jr  Ole Miss Fan Picture me rollin' Member since Jun 2011 12959 posts

| Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:45 pm)
First and formost congrats to him winning the Heisman last night. Looking at the quarterbacks from the last 20 years where do you put him right now? I know it is a little early probably because he has yet to finish his freshman season but I was just curious. Even though he has won the Heisman I don't think you can put him on the same level as the Manning brothers, Stafford, or Couch. Just curious as to what the board's opinion is.
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GoldenHebert  LSU Fan Knoxville, TN Member since Oct 2011 837 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:47 pm to Henry Jones Jr)
If he keeps this up, he'll be up there. You've seen those guys with a whole career. JF has only been at it for one year.
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xenythx  Florida Fan Member since Dec 2007 16518 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:49 pm to Henry Jones Jr)
Manziel with this season has already put himself in the top 6-8 with 3 more years to solidify his legacy. Tebow Newton Wuerffel Peyton Manning Are the only guys I would for sure put in front of him right now. Then it gets debatable.
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joshnorris14  Florida Fan Florida Member since Jan 2009 19554 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:49 pm to Henry Jones Jr)
Behind Manning, Weurrfel, Tebow, Newton. Could be #1/2 on the list depending on next season.
This post was edited on 12/9 at 3:50 pm
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Tiger Authority  LSU Fan Member since Jul 2007 29230 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:50 pm to joshnorris14)
Guy needs to win something other than an award before we anoint him God's gift to the SEC football universe.
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boXerrumble  Florida Fan Pace, FL Member since Sep 2011 9124 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:52 pm to joshnorris14)
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Could be #1/2 on the list depending on next season.
Eh, unless he wins a title, I wouldn't put him above those 4, not even above Peyton.
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Jake88  George Mason Fan Member since Apr 2005 5598 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:53 pm to Henry Jones Jr)
He won during a fairly weak year for Heisman candidates. He's got time to build on what's he's done. To early to tell.
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darryljames30  LSU Fan Marcus Thornton/Freddy Adu fan Member since Feb 2006 10092 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:53 pm to xenythx)
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Are the only guys I would for sure put in front of him right now. Then it gets debatable.
Are you a Florida fan? Rex Grossman was unstoppable in college.
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Henry Jones Jr  Ole Miss Fan Picture me rollin' Member since Jun 2011 12959 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:54 pm to Jake88)
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He won during a fairly weak year for Heisman candidates.
True. Plus he had arguably the best offensive line in the country. I want to see how he does when it's not stellar.
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xenythx  Florida Fan Member since Dec 2007 16518 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:54 pm to Tiger Authority)
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Guy needs to win something other than an award before we anoint him God's gift to the SEC football universe.
He probably needs to win some kind of a title in order to pass those four that I listed, but guys like Couch, Stafford, and Eli didn't win shite either.
This post was edited on 12/9 at 3:56 pm
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Smoke Ring  Texas A&M Fan Cow Bayou, TX Member since Dec 2010 3348 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:54 pm to joshnorris14)
With his Heisman in hand, JFF will be judged on wins, not stats. How far he takes his team will be his ultimate legacy
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Tiger Authority  LSU Fan Member since Jul 2007 29230 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:54 pm to Jake88)
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He won during a fairly weak year for Heisman candidates.
understatement
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bigDgator  Florida Fan Dallas Member since Oct 2008 2063 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:55 pm to Henry Jones Jr)
Stafford? Couch?? Not setting the bar very high are we?
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Henry Jones Jr  Ole Miss Fan Picture me rollin' Member since Jun 2011 12959 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:56 pm to bigDgator)
Stafford has done better than any UF quarterback has ever done in the NFL.
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tiggerthetooth  LSU Fan Big Momma's House Member since Oct 2010 11083 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:57 pm to Henry Jones Jr)
Ahead of him right now. Peyton Manning Eli Manning Jay Cutler Cam Newton Tim Tebow David Greene Danny Weurffel Rex Grossman Ryan Mallett Matt Jones
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Tiger Authority  LSU Fan Member since Jul 2007 29230 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:58 pm to Henry Jones Jr)
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Stafford has done better than any UF quarterback has ever done in the NFL.
What does this have to do with anything. If that was the litmus test, why start a thread about Johnny Manziel until he's played in the league for several years?
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bigDgator  Florida Fan Dallas Member since Oct 2008 2063 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:59 pm to Henry Jones Jr)
Which has nothing to do with Manziel, since he has shown to be a much better college QB than Stafford. Who said anything about the NFL? Let me go read your post again.
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Farmer1906  Texas A&M Fan Humble, TX Member since Apr 2009 680 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:59 pm to Smoke Ring)
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With his Heisman in hand, JFF will be judged on wins, not stats. How far he takes his team will be his ultimate legacy
Agree except for maybe a 2nd Heisman. That has only been done once so that has to count for something.
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tiggerthetooth  LSU Fan Big Momma's House Member since Oct 2010 11083 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 4:00 pm to darryljames30)
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Are you a Florida fan? Rex Grossman was unstoppable in college.
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Farmer1906  Texas A&M Fan Humble, TX Member since Apr 2009 680 posts

| re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years? (Posted on 12/9/12 at 4:01 pm to tiggerthetooth)
TROLL
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