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Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:37 pm
Need to move a ceiling fan about 8 feet from where it is now. Will have to add wire to do this. Question is the best practice to put in a junction box for the splice connection? This is what I want to do.

I will be patching in drywall and re-texture so the old location is no longer visible in the room. Is it okay to completely seal up an area with a j-box? The floor above is attic but it has been decked and will be a pain in the arse to pull up. Really want to do all work from below.

Thanks in advance.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:40 pm to
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The floor above is attic but it has been decked and will be a pain in the arse to pull up. Really want to do all work from below.



Cutting plywood in an attic vs cutting and patching drywall on a ceiling

Is is screwed or nailed? if nailed, just use a prybar.


quote:

Question is the best practice to put in a junction box for the splice connection?


I am not an electrician, but this is what I have done on my projects
Posted by FleshEatingSalsa
Floating down the Anduin
Member since Dec 2009
12293 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:28 pm to
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Question is the best practice to put in a junction box for the splice connection?

That's good.


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Is it okay to completely seal up an area with a j-box?

That's not as good. As long as you're not selling later to an FHA buyer you'll be fine.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 7:47 pm to
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is the best practice to put in a junction box for the splice connection?
I'm pretty sure that's the code requirement for splices.
Posted by five_fivesix
Y’all
Member since Aug 2012
13834 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:24 pm to
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Is it okay to completely seal up an area with a j-box?


No!

All boxes, splices, connections etc., must be accessible.

eta: your two options are to make your splice in the existing box and use a blank cover

or

make your splice further up stream (at the switch?) and run new wire to the new location.

or

If in Auburn, just staple an extension cord from an outlet to the new fan location.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 9:30 pm
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17847 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:53 pm to
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All boxes, splices, connections etc., must be accessible.

Can this not be done at the top of the bottom chord of the truss, junction box opening facing upwards? It would allow you to patch the ceiling and also the junction box opening remains accessible, although now via the attic.

Not an electrician by any stretch, but my dad is a contractor and I've been remodeling for almost 2 decades...
Posted by five_fivesix
Y’all
Member since Aug 2012
13834 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:03 pm to
You can have jboxes in attics. But I think OP wanted to avoid breaching his decking up there. But after some thought, he’s gonna have to breach it somewhere to run his new leg.

Posted by AUFanInSoCal
Orange County
Member since Nov 2007
1616 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 5:04 pm to
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Need to move a ceiling fan about 8 feet from where it is now. Will have to add wire to do this. Question is the best practice to put in a junction box for the splice connection? This is what I want to do.


Why wouldn't you just run the new length of the wiring needed from the switch to the new location of the ceiling fan. Junction box with no access is not code. Maybe you should hire an electrician.




Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:35 am to
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Really want to do all work from below.


So is this gay aggie code that you are a Bottom?
Posted by dshort_bruh
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/7/17 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by five_fivesix
Y’all
Member since Aug 2012
13834 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
2948 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 5:47 pm to
Lol.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 5:47 pm
Posted by DawgFan85
Member since Sep 2017
241 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 7:21 pm to
The only way to meet code and spice the wiring in the existing box is to rotate the box towards the attic space and have an acces point to the box from the attic. Otherwise you will have to put a blank plate on the existing box if you decide to make a splice, as code prohibits inaccessible splices
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