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How wide should a woods road be?
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:42 pm
I own 40 acres surrounded by Desoto NF. They just gave me legal access and the permit allows a 30'x 250 yard right of way. The existing dirt road (through a recent clear-cut) is only 8-10' wide.
What are the benefits to making it 30' wide vs maintaining the original road width?
What are the benefits to making it 30' wide vs maintaining the original road width?
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Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:49 pm to dat yat
quote:Do you plan on having two way traffic or big rigs down the road?
What are the benefits to making it 30' wide vs maintaining the original road width?
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:49 pm to dat yat
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What are the benefits to making it 30' wide vs maintaining the original road width?
Highways invite traffic.
10'-12' should be wide enough for your truck and any trailer you'll pull back there.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:52 pm to dat yat
quote:Bigger/better shooting lane down the road. no pun
What are the benefits to making it 30' wide vs maintaining the original road width?
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:53 pm to dat yat
Wide enough so when trees grow back it doesn't canopy over. Canopy doesn't allow for sun which dries things out during wet winters/spring
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:56 pm to NYCAuburn
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Do you plan on having two way traffic or big rigs down the road?
It's just a camp in the woods back there. There will be a timber harvest in a decade or so, but the pulpwood trucks made it through last time.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:58 pm to dat yat
Go as wide as the permit allows. It'll help daylight the road. Plus, they'll never let you go any wider and if you don't do it now you may run into problems widening it down the road as personnel and attitudes change.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:59 pm to dat yat
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There will be a timber harvest in a decade or so, but the pulpwood trucks made it through last time.
I saw a greyhound bus type bus appear out of nowhere on a very primitive Forest service road in the N GA mountains, 4.5 miles in, good drivers can make do.
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It's just a camp in the woods back there
I'd just clear any trees that could fall and clear lower limbs and under brush, but thats it, IMO
Posted on 6/27/17 at 4:01 pm to dat yat
Plant the road and have a big arse food plot.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 4:01 pm to Gillnet
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Wide enough so when trees grow back it doesn't canopy over. Canopy doesn't allow for sun which dries things out during wet winters/spring
Interesting. Most of it is sandy and gently sloped so that part always stayed decent even before the clear-cut. The one clay area held water and rutted sometimes. I'll max it to 30' at least by the areas prone to holding water.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 4:02 pm to dat yat
You don't have to build the road 30', but I'd clear at least 30', that way you can build your road bigger if you need to.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 4:07 pm to tenfoe
My road is about 12' wide but close to 30' between trees. This is a logging road that was already on property when I bought.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 4:36 pm to tenfoe
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You don't have to build the road 30', but I'd clear at least 30', that way you can build your road bigger if you need to.
Thanks y'all. 30' cleared with the old roadbed in the middle sounds like the way to go.
Even though I have a tractor, it would be better to use gallons and gallons of Roundup for this right?
Posted on 6/27/17 at 4:44 pm to dat yat
I am in a scramble to rig up a big sprayer for my tractor. We just bought and the stuff that has grown in the two month buying process is unreal. Too much logging debris for me to bush hog everything so I plan on spraying until I get my grapple
Posted on 6/27/17 at 10:46 pm to bayoudude
Sounds like a weekend dozer rental to me
Posted on 6/27/17 at 10:59 pm to dat yat
It was very generous of them to give you a 30" easement...can't say I would clear 30' of their timber if you don't need it, though. I would probably wait until they thin or harvest and then try to establish a wider road then.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:06 pm to Spankum
If they give it.. You take it. My FIL is a land surveyor and he was just telling me the other day that if you get into a lawsuit down the road that the judges go by a use it or lose it mentality. If you have a right of way and never use it or fail to keep it up it will not hold up in court. How this is idk but that's what he told me.
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:12 pm to Spankum
They clearcut it a couple years ago and it is just weeds, briar and light scrubbrush now except for the actual roadbed and a few oaks scattered about. The contract states that I cannot cut down any trees and 30' is wider than I need. But now is the time to carve out a wide path if there are any benefits to it. Once "trees" grow there, it's too late.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:22 am to WPsportsman
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If they give it.. You take it. My FIL is a land surveyor and he was just telling me the other day that if you get into a lawsuit down the road that the judges go by a use it or lose it mentality. If you have a right of way and never use it or fail to keep it up it will not hold up in court. How this is idk but that's what he told me.
The law here in Louisiana about right away is that Once givin, That person has up to 10 years to make improvement for a road. If one does not make any improvements in that time period, then that right away goes back to the owner.
Had to give a right away. Guest what? Assholes that pushed me into this didn't do anything in the last 10 years. Just got the paperwork in that told the assholes that they lost the right away.
Now they are screwed. I am hoping to buy their place at a very good price now that they don't have a right away across my place. For them, they will have to go thru someone else's place that would cost them a arm and a leg to clear and build a road. 
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