re: When is enough enough of Pinkel?

I'm beginning to question if you're a Mizzou fan at all. Truly beginning to wonder if you aren't a fan of another school here trolling.

I was admittedly one of those panty wastes after 2012. Difference is I learned my lesson, to some extent anyways. Talk about firing GP after 1 loss is stupid.

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I'm beginning to question if you're a Mizzou fan at all. Truly beginning to wonder if you aren't a fan of another school here trolling.

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I'm not.

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I'm not.

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Thank you. That's all I needed to know. I'll give ya one more post because I am curious what school it is that you do support.

TBTB,

You must have loved Saturday getting your rocks of to your "favorite" team losing. You are a miserable son-of-a bitch for sure. Pinkel does dumb arse shite like that lack of TO or keeping Yost/Steck too long but the way you act is just fricking crazy and quite frankly many on here are tired of hearing your constant bitching.

I'd really hoped you would be better than to talk about "bowl appearances", bowl eligibility and opportunity changed drastically from the last time Mizzou was good in the early 80's to the time when Pinkel took over. At that time an 8 win season was no guarantee of a bowl offer, now a measly .500- 6 win year guarantees you a bowl. So let's please knock off the ridiculous crap about "bowl appearances" as some sort of meaningful standard of measure to where Mizzou was compared to now.

Then you start getting into the X number of games/wins in Y number of years and top X finishes where you need to pick out the good from the bad and draw an arbitrary line to decide what acceptable or good is. Might as well go all in and talk about first round draft picks in Z # years as well.

The problem is you don't mention that in that time with all those NFL players Pinkel has had a number of big game wins you can count on one hand, and that's if you're a bad carpenter missing a finger or two. A single win vs OU, a few vs Texas and Nebraska combined and only when they had down years, which applies as well to split with Georgia and Florida.

The problem for Gary is he's proven what he can do, after all "he does what he does", and over performing on the field is not one of the things he does. His teams are pretty good at beating the teams he should beat, with a tiny fraction of wins vs really good teams and more than enough embarrassments to offset that small number of big wins.

As he showed against Indiana, his clock management, game time decision making and general ability to make a difference on the sideline are pretty much non existent, and it's not like that is a new development. His game plan is basically always the same, try to make fewer mistakes, win the battle of turn overs and not give a big play, ie play not to lose. When that doesn't work he's out of his element and has no idea what to do. You yourself said you suspect Pinkel has taken us as far as he can, and I'd bet that's largely why you feel that way. If not you can explain it yourself.

and that's another thing, fans like to bag on Larry Smith, but he was dealing with a program that was left for dead by it's own administration.

Pinkel came along after the regime change that led to the rebuilding, people act like and are gullible enough to believe that somehow Pinkel was single handedly responsible for rebuilding the program, that's very far from the truth.

It's not like Pinkel put up his own money to start the much needed and long overdue refurbishing of facilities.

Alden does get credit for getting that ball rolling, he did a credible job of reaching out to donors and glad handing the way to getting things back out of the dumpster fire that was the programs facility situation.

Like Pinkel, it's hard to tell if there is any "up" left for Alden or if he's peaked and has nothing else to give.

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Jagd Tiger

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Deep breaths my friend. Life is good.

Seriously though, there is plenty I think GP does wrong. Icing kickers. Time management. Fake punts in your own end of the field on 4th and 13 or whatever. The list goes on.

But to deny the man his due is stupid. I'm not saying he's the greatest coach ever. Not even saying he's the greatest coach ever at Mizzou. But to deny what he has accomplished is just dumb. Look at the numbers however you want to. There really is not way to spin them to make them bad. I think I even mentioned that more games were played when I said we won 12 times out of 14 attempts. I get it. Woody couldn't win 14 games because he only played 11.

Who in their right mind would come to Mizzou right now if Mizzou fired a head coach that just a year ago won the SEC East? I wouldn't. That is why, even if you think GP has topped out at the divisional title level, you have to make the most of what you can get over the next few years and work on a smooth transition plan.

I'll be honest, I can't even believe that we're talking about firing GP.

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David Morrison ?@DavidCMorrison · 13h
Pinkel on Morgan Steward: "We might get him back here in a few weeks. That's positive."

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How is that positive. Especially when we heard a few weeks a few weeks ago. Guessing he's done for the season.