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re: The JD era at UF needs to end, now.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:08 pm to reel_gator8
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:08 pm to reel_gator8
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We cannot lose to UT...its a hinge game and even though they are decimated on both lines and playing a lot of frosh...Worley and North can be almost as bad as Sims & Cooper. Fortunately their frosh RB (Hurd or Heard?) hasn't gelled yet and we don't want a running game to worry about. This is a game where we can focus more on the passing threat instead.
I actually think our chances are pretty good going forward, even with a loss like that. Sometimes those types of losses ignite teams to do great things.
I really want that to be true, but I be a man of little faith. :tsigh:
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 4:58 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Hahahaha so he has a clutch moment then follows that up with a 30% game. Seems to me the former was more of a fluke.
So he really does nothing well as a QB, which is my point. Making him a below average QB.
So he really does nothing well as a QB, which is my point. Making him a below average QB.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 5:47 am to reel_gator8
quote:It's pretty clear that the season is not looking good and despite some trolling, there's some good conversation there. And going to the SECRant only to say we're going to 'wax that azz' for any and every opponent by 40 points doesn't help either.
Memo to everyone: please refrain from airing out on the rant how bad our coaching or players are...why go there? If you must...please post your pent up frustrations here on the Gator board.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:34 am to gatordmb89
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Hahahaha so he has a clutch moment then follows that up with a 30% game. Seems to me the former was more of a fluke.
So he really does nothing well as a QB, which is my point. Making him a below average QB.
Now answer my question:
What does our offense do well?
Do we run well?
What about pass protection?
Do we block particularly well on runs?
Do our wide receivers make catches consistently?
Do we run our routes well?
What about effort?
I'll wait.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:14 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I'll drop these here:
In Driskel’s six career games against top-20 teams, he’s 74-of-135 (55 percent) for 760 yards (127 yards avg.), seven touchdowns and 11 turnovers (six interceptions, five fumbles lost).
Driskel averaged 137 yards passing per game in 2012, which didn’t put him among the top 100 national leaders. His most productive game (219 yards at Tennessee) came against a team that went 5-7, finished 114th in passing defense and fired their coach. In arguably the biggest win of Driskel’s career — a 14-6 victory over No. 4 LSU — he had 61 yards passing, rushed for one yard, didn’t score and lost a fumble.
In Driskel’s six career games against top-20 teams, he’s 74-of-135 (55 percent) for 760 yards (127 yards avg.), seven touchdowns and 11 turnovers (six interceptions, five fumbles lost).
Driskel averaged 137 yards passing per game in 2012, which didn’t put him among the top 100 national leaders. His most productive game (219 yards at Tennessee) came against a team that went 5-7, finished 114th in passing defense and fired their coach. In arguably the biggest win of Driskel’s career — a 14-6 victory over No. 4 LSU — he had 61 yards passing, rushed for one yard, didn’t score and lost a fumble.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:35 am to gatorsimz
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In Driskel’s six career games against top-20 teams, he’s 74-of-135 (55 percent) for 760 yards (127 yards avg.), seven touchdowns and 11 turnovers (six interceptions, five fumbles lost).
Didn't he go 11 - 2 one year? He did what he needed to do, right?
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In arguably the biggest win of Driskel’s career — a 14-6 victory over No. 4 LSU — he had 61 yards passing, rushed for one yard, didn’t score and lost a fumble.
Pretty sure beating Manziel and A&M at College Station was a bigger win. Let's show the stats from there, shall we?
13/16 for 162 yards, 0 turnovers.
Manziel? 23 of 30 for 173 yards. Manziel must fricking blow, eh?
This stuff is getting ridiculous to sit here and pretend like Driskel was the problem all along when he was sacked eight times in one game.
It's almost like a Treon propaganda machine with these posts.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:59 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
'12 was probably a NC yr if UF had AJ McCarron or any average/slightly above average QB.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:03 am to gatordmb89
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'12 was probably a NC yr if UF had AJ McCarron or any average/slightly above average QB.
Yeah, like...someone who was built for a pro-style offense?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:09 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I will toss in another .03 worth: I watched Driskel closely in 2012-now and heres what I am seeing...a very talented qb who hasnt been able to mentally shake the bad coaching he has gotten early on.
His job in 2012 was clear....dont have turnovers and give the ball to Gillislee and let the defense win it. It was working great until the WLOCP and we put the ball on the ground. Driskel was blamed for all our ills but we had five or six turnovers and he had help trust me. Our wildcat qb had the ball snapped to him and it laid on the ground while he looked at it..unforced error without Driskel in the game. he had wr not help him on one pass and it was picked...the other pick was JDs fault. We should have never let UGA beat us..but the turnovers killed us and Jeff did move the ball. Louisville was the whole team suffering letdown itis...just like Bama in Sugar Bowl against Utah and Oklahoma. But nobody calls Saban a bad coach for it.
I was sure Driskel was ready to turn the corner this year but he is playing scared and a qb cant do that. He has to be ultra confident and some people have it and some dont. Honestly, Driskel has talent galore but isnt confident enough to take chances. Can it be fixed? I dont know. The coaching needs to make him aware that he has to let it all out and not worry. His troubles arent from being careless...its from being too careful....and one is just as bad as the other. Great qbs dont fear, they make defenses fear.
His job in 2012 was clear....dont have turnovers and give the ball to Gillislee and let the defense win it. It was working great until the WLOCP and we put the ball on the ground. Driskel was blamed for all our ills but we had five or six turnovers and he had help trust me. Our wildcat qb had the ball snapped to him and it laid on the ground while he looked at it..unforced error without Driskel in the game. he had wr not help him on one pass and it was picked...the other pick was JDs fault. We should have never let UGA beat us..but the turnovers killed us and Jeff did move the ball. Louisville was the whole team suffering letdown itis...just like Bama in Sugar Bowl against Utah and Oklahoma. But nobody calls Saban a bad coach for it.
I was sure Driskel was ready to turn the corner this year but he is playing scared and a qb cant do that. He has to be ultra confident and some people have it and some dont. Honestly, Driskel has talent galore but isnt confident enough to take chances. Can it be fixed? I dont know. The coaching needs to make him aware that he has to let it all out and not worry. His troubles arent from being careless...its from being too careful....and one is just as bad as the other. Great qbs dont fear, they make defenses fear.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:17 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Are you related to Driskel?
Just wondering. Have not seen a Gator fan on this board or IRL defend him as much as you do.
Just wondering. Have not seen a Gator fan on this board or IRL defend him as much as you do.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:28 am to boXerrumble
As an outsider looking in, Driskel is awful. Any offense you put him in.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:41 am to HinesvilleThrill
Thanks for sharing.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:49 am to roadGator
Anytime.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:24 pm to boXerrumble
As stated above, he/she just likes to disagree on things.
The OL has been good this year.
WR's are getting better separation, although dropped a few passes.
The effort is there... That's just dumb to mention.
The OL has been good this year.
WR's are getting better separation, although dropped a few passes.
The effort is there... That's just dumb to mention.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:27 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Yeah.
Is Driskel made for the Spread? 30%, poor job of reading the zone read play against Bama, turning the ball over throwing into double and triple coverage.
Is Driskel made for the Spread? 30%, poor job of reading the zone read play against Bama, turning the ball over throwing into double and triple coverage.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 3:37 pm to gatordmb89
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The OL has been good this year.
Were you asleep during the Kentucky game?
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WR's are getting better separation, although dropped a few passes.
Crucial passes that could have seriously helped with some confidence for our quarterback.
Dude's terrified to make mistakes and ends up increasing his chances to do so, and no one is helping him, that's for sure.
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The effort is there... That's just dumb to mention.
Is that why the team gave up 651 yards?
The running backs couldn't even get 50 yards combined?
Get the frick out of here, man.
And why I protect Driskel: Because I'm unbelievably objective when it comes to these things. I'm not saying he's perfect, but I am saying he has had zero help outside of Robinson. Dunbar has played like hot garbage, Reed has made two unbelievably facile drops and outside of them can you really name a receiver who has been producing jack?
I was totally right about Kentucky when all of you were downvoting me for saying "watch out", I'll be right about Driskel, too. He's got the arm, the athletic ability and the size to be a competitive quartberack, he just needs a halfway decent offense.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:50 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
He's last among SEC starters in QB rating (111.1) as well as yards per attempt (5.5). Behind Vandy's current starter.
He completes 42 percent of his passes (13 of 31)on third down.
On eight third-down passes in Saturday's loss, he completed more passes to Alabama (two interceptions) than Florida (one). 12.5% completion rate.
Straws you keep saying he rushed for 59yds. 50yds of that came on 3 runs (2 18yds 1 14yds)so on his other eight runs he averaged 1.2 YPC. Plus 30 of those 59 yards came with <10 mins to go in game when bama was playing the pass.
So lets all get this straight he went 9-28 for 93 yds 1TD and 2INTS. He rushed 11 times for 59 yds 1TD 50 of which came on 3 runs. 30 of which came late in the game when Bama's CB were playing off the line trying to defend a pass. But with all that it is the O lines fault and our RB's not producing.
LETS ALSO NOT FORGET WE DID NOT MAKE IT PASSED THE 50 YARD LINE ON OFFENSE UNLESS THE DEFENSE GOT A TURNOVER AND WE STARTED THERE.
He completes 42 percent of his passes (13 of 31)on third down.
On eight third-down passes in Saturday's loss, he completed more passes to Alabama (two interceptions) than Florida (one). 12.5% completion rate.
Straws you keep saying he rushed for 59yds. 50yds of that came on 3 runs (2 18yds 1 14yds)so on his other eight runs he averaged 1.2 YPC. Plus 30 of those 59 yards came with <10 mins to go in game when bama was playing the pass.
So lets all get this straight he went 9-28 for 93 yds 1TD and 2INTS. He rushed 11 times for 59 yds 1TD 50 of which came on 3 runs. 30 of which came late in the game when Bama's CB were playing off the line trying to defend a pass. But with all that it is the O lines fault and our RB's not producing.
LETS ALSO NOT FORGET WE DID NOT MAKE IT PASSED THE 50 YARD LINE ON OFFENSE UNLESS THE DEFENSE GOT A TURNOVER AND WE STARTED THERE.
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:59 pm to gatorbait_007
Stats don't lie
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:20 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Straws, what did you think of Brantley?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:53 pm to gatorbait_007
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He's last among SEC starters in QB rating (111.1) as well as yards per attempt (5.5). Behind Vandy's current starter.
After two games of asking him to just chalk it up in the air (it was clear the deep balls were presnap decisions) I can't imagine why he wouldn't be completing most of his passes -- unless you were to add in some pretty crucial drops, uninspired WR play and you know, a pretty horrible O-Line.
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He completes 42 percent of his passes (13 of 31)on third down.
18 of 31 sounds much better when your receivers don't butterfingers.
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Straws you keep saying he rushed for 59yds. 50yds of that came on 3 runs (2 18yds 1 14yds)so on his other eight runs he averaged 1.2 YPC. Plus 30 of those 59 yards came with <10 mins to go in game when bama was playing the pass.
It would still be more production than our running backs.
Combined.
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So lets all get this straight he went 9-28 for 93 yds 1TD and 2INTS. He rushed 11 times for 59 yds 1TD 50 of which came on 3 runs. 30 of which came late in the game when Bama's CB were playing off the line trying to defend a pass. But with all that it is the O lines fault and our RB's not producing.
Yeah, our running backs didn't produce anything.
Our Oline didn't protect adequately.
Our receivers weren't catching it when it was thrown in their direction.
And Driskel made some bad passes.
But he's one piece of this broken puzzle. If you think we're magically going to protect, catch and run better because of a new quarterback you're fricking stupid.
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LETS ALSO NOT FORGET WE DID NOT MAKE IT PASSED THE 50 YARD LINE ON OFFENSE UNLESS THE DEFENSE GOT A TURNOVER AND WE STARTED THERE.
And the running backs? How well did they produce? How well did the offense as a whole produce? They all fricking sucked.
They made less yards than the quarterback.
The receivers dropped passes (one even slipped through the fingers to make the first interception).
The Oline did not protect well, the pocket collapsed with three man rushes several times, and really Driskel wasn't secure at any point regardless of the number of sacks. The only reason those were mitigated were because he was throwing as soon as he had the ball in his hands.
With no Oline coverage, no running threat and our receivers giving a lackluster performance, no one is going to succeed.
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