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re: KSU Defense Alignment
Posted on 9/19/14 at 2:35 pm to AubieALUMdvm
Posted on 9/19/14 at 2:35 pm to AubieALUMdvm
I still think losing Tre Mason is huge...he would break tons of tackles and routinely turn 3 yard carries into 10 yarders...their current RBs are not making the first guy miss...
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Posted on 9/19/14 at 2:35 pm to WDE24
Yep... Their DBs crashed hard on early downs to take away the read option and speed sweep plays.
IMO, that's how everyone should play us.... blitz off the corner to get in the backfield to disrupt the read option before it can get started. Ole Miss did some this last year... we're gonna see more teams implement it moving forward.
IMO, that's how everyone should play us.... blitz off the corner to get in the backfield to disrupt the read option before it can get started. Ole Miss did some this last year... we're gonna see more teams implement it moving forward.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 2:35 pm to Topwater Trout
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not all night. They didn't even seem to run blitz much. their front 4 was very effective against the oline. I still think Auburn should have stuck with the running game. NM made some bad decisions with the read option early. Couple that with the drops by the wr's and KState hung in the game. Last 2 drives (scoring drives) Auburn was more determined to run.
The OL looked bad because of the numbers in the box. I do not think they gave up a sack all night. Again, KSU soldout to edges with either the LBs or the Safties. AU was not able to get to the edge with either Marshall or the Jet Sweep. Once AU committed to the pass, their WRs were wide open all night.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 2:37 pm to inthemorning
They kept it simple. Didn't try to out think Auburn. The d line seemed to just plug holes. Didn't seem like they were trying to pressure the qb. LB's seemed to play smart. Contain watch the qb. Db's would play man. Safeties watched QB. K state didn't seem to respect Marshall throwing the ball.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 2:39 pm to thekid
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I still think losing Tre Mason is huge...he would break tons of tackles and routinely turn 3 yard carries into 10 yarders...their current RBs are not making the first guy miss
Mason was quicker to the LOS, which resulted in DL being still engaged by the OL. If they did stop up the hole, his momentum would get two additional yards due to their body position. With CAP, they clogged up the running lanes. Look for AU to play Roc Thomas more in the future.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 2:41 pm to graves1
quote:Like Miss St last year, that is what got them beat.
They kept it simple. Didn't try to out think Auburn. The d line seemed to just plug holes. Didn't seem like they were trying to pressure the qb. LB's seemed to play smart. Contain watch the qb. Db's would play man. Safeties watched QB. K state didn't seem to respect Marshall throwing the ball.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 2:41 pm to graves1
Did it rain before the game? The turf looked wet or maybe it was just really worn out. Anyway that's a good way to stop the run.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 2:43 pm to Irons Puppet
I agree. But you know Saban watched that game and thought to himself "What if I put 10 DB's on the feild". Trying to out think Auburn. KISS.. KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!!!!!!!!
Posted on 9/19/14 at 2:46 pm to graves1
I don't think anyone can deny that Kirby Smart/Nick Saban thought the defense out of position a few times. It seemed like most of the plays the defense was getting the call right before the ball was snapped and it looked horrible.
It was a failure. I'm not sure what was going on but the calls were WAY too late. Unfortunately I've seen this a few times against WVU. Its a recurring nightmare.
It was a failure. I'm not sure what was going on but the calls were WAY too late. Unfortunately I've seen this a few times against WVU. Its a recurring nightmare.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 2:46 pm to Irons Puppet
i noticed it appeared KSU was only playing six in the box and i don`t know much about their team just noticed the numbers of the guys making the tackles were like 25 and 35 which are safety type numbers. So i`m assuming the safeties were coming hard to stop the run leaving AU`s wideouts in man but batted down balls and drops kept stalling AU`S drives. Great gamble by Snyder and it almost won him the game.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 2:47 pm to graves1
quote:I know we crack on Marshall's passing game, but the short passing game was reliable minus some drops that were on the WRs. The other issue was the DL batting down passes. Nevertheless, the short passing game was efficient (mainly in the 2nd half), and even the deep ball was decent.
K state didn't seem to respect Marshall throwing the ball.
Gus appears to believe in Marshall and his arm, otherwise he wouldn't have given Marshall the ball through the air on the last play of the night.
However, I don't want to have a knee-jerk reaction to last night because it was a strange game as I already stated. I don't think the run game is as bad as it appeared last night, and I fully believe AU will still commit to it.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 2:48 pm to Irons Puppet
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The OL looked bad because of the numbers in the box
The "stacked box" as you are calling it wasn't penetrating the line they were supporting the edges...they were able to do so because the front 4 gave the oline fits and kept them off the linebackers.
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I do not think they gave up a sack all night.
I don't think KState was trying to get penetration or rush the pass.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 2:51 pm to graves1
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I agree. But you know Saban watched that game and thought to himself "What if I put 10 DB's on the feild". Trying to out think Auburn. KISS.. KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!!!!!!!!
Would result in Death by running. To slow this offense down, you have to commit to stopping the run or the pass. Most will choose the pass in the future, because of Marshall. AU still had over 350 yards of Offense with many more yards left on the field to to dropped passes.
This post was edited on 9/19/14 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 9/19/14 at 2:56 pm to Topwater Trout
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The "stacked box" as you are calling it wasn't penetrating the line they were supporting the edges...they were able to do so because the front 4 gave the oline fits and kept them off the linebackers.
The would move the Safties to the LBs position and used the LBs to cover the edge once the ball was snapped. Their DLs main purpose was to clog the LOS and let their LBs and Safties make the tackles. There were running lanes on the edges, but the backs let themselfs get strung out to the sidelines too much.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 2:58 pm to Topwater Trout
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not all night.
For basically the first half.
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They didn't even seem to run blitz much.
Not straight blitz, but a lot of pressure. Their guys were clearly keyed into stopping the run at the expense of coverage.
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Last 2 drives (scoring drives) Auburn was more determined to run.
Only because we had opened up the field a little with our passing, and they still were able to plug gaps enough.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 3:02 pm to Aubie83
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They did not stack the box. Their dline just flat out played harder. They rushed four and were still get significant pressure on Marshall
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and their secondary is much better at tackling than coverage
This post was edited on 9/19/14 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 9/19/14 at 3:04 pm to Irons Puppet
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Their DLs main purpose was to clog the LOS and let their LBs and Safties make the tackles.
agree 100%
Posted on 9/19/14 at 3:04 pm to Kodar
You guys weren't pumped to be playing a top 20 team on the road? The excuses you idiots come up with are awesome
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Posted on 9/19/14 at 3:04 pm to Coater
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They did not stack the box. Their dline just flat out played harder. They rushed four and were still get significant pressure on Marshall
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and their secondary is much better at tackling than coverage
They got zero sacks and Marshall had all day to make throws. That is why he went deep so much.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 3:16 pm to inthemorning
They had defenders coming through gaps and off the edges on just about every play - smaller, faster unit that flew to the ball and disrupted Auburn's timing behind the line of scrimmage.
KSU didn't have the depth to do it for four quarters. They ran out of gas in the third.
KSU didn't have the depth to do it for four quarters. They ran out of gas in the third.
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