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re: Arkansas State Football team forced to remove Christian crosses from helmets

Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:39 am to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:39 am to
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I remember there being a part about separation of church and state.

In the Constitution?
:kern:
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:40 am to
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they gave the players the option of having them on the helmet or not, then it shouldn't be an issue.
Correct. Those forcing the removal are the ones explicitly violating the Constitution.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:40 am to
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I would like for you to show me that please...




Stonehog will now exit this thread, because he's a big pussy.
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:40 am to
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I remember there being a part about separation of church and state.

I love how you commie libshits use this out of context for every battle you fight. We don't create laws based upon religious mandates. That's all it means. It has nothing to do with a football helmet, a team chaplain, or praying before a game. Holy shite, I'm tired of you pussies. #mad
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:40 am to
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No you don't. Check it again.


Are you kidding?
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Posted by JasoNdaTiger
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:41 am to
The Freedom From Religion frickers need to stop trying to force atheism on everything. That group can suck my balls.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 11:43 am
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:41 am to
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Correct. Those forcing the removal are the ones explicitly violating the Constitution.



Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:42 am to
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Stonehog

Idiot pos. Read the damn document and stop sucking Rachel Maddow's 6 inch clit.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:42 am to
First Amendment? Ring any bells?
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:44 am to
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First Amendment?
It does. Why don't you quote it, and then show me who you think violated it. Later, we can get into the real issue, that liberal antireligious judges have twisted that section of our Constitution to mean the exact opposite of what it was always intended for.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 11:46 am
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:44 am to
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The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that constitute the Bill of Rights.

Yeah, that doesn't say what you're saying it says.
Posted by Aubie83
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:44 am to
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First Amendment? Ring any bells?


I must have missed the part of the story where Arkansas St told their players they would either be Christians or kicked off the football team and stoned to death...can you provide a link to that?
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:45 am to
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Are you kidding?

:allthekern:
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:46 am to
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It does.


Ok, then why were you arguing? Did you forget the First Amendment is part of the Constitution?
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:47 am to
Keep in mind this is the same bitch that cant handle losing bets.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:47 am to
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The problem wasn't with the memorial, it was just with the cross. It doesn't really matter what the players wanted.

Based on how they described the law, I don't think there was any issue with the cross. They were honoring a teammates (who I assume was Christian) by putting a Christian symbol on their helmet. That isn't endorsing a a religion, that is acknowledging what the player identified himself as. I would say the same thing if the player was Jewish, Buddhist, Islamic, etc.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:47 am to
Ok you can acknowledge the first amendment's existence. Now can you read it? Can you understand the words?
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:48 am to
The fact is that the first amendment gives them the right to endorse a religion if they choose to. Not the opposite.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:49 am to
Yeah.
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