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re: Arkansas State Football team forced to remove Christian crosses from helmets
Posted on 9/13/14 at 8:26 am to the808bass
Posted on 9/13/14 at 8:26 am to the808bass
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So where our thought patterns diverge is that you think that a football team that plays for a state university using a Christian icon to memorialize some people who have passed is the same thing as the state having an official religion and I don't.
Don't you understand? That cross symbolizes that someone, somewhere, somehow, believes in Jesus. And by George, that's unacceptable.
If we sit idly by and let Crosses remain on people's helmets, get ready for a real shitstorm the likes of which you've never seen. Fire and brimstone coming down from the sky! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes! The dead rising from the grave!Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats, living together! Mass hysteria!
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Posted on 9/13/14 at 11:54 pm to BillyBobPorkin
Good
Posted on 9/14/14 at 1:06 am to cokebottleag
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If Baylor had half the balls they say they do, they'd replace the BU decal with large crosses for the rest of the season, as a big "frick YOU" to all the people offended by the presence of a religious symbol where they can view it.
Private school that can do pretty much whatever they want, so I'm not sure where balls come into the question.
Posted on 9/14/14 at 9:02 am to finestfirst79
What pisses me off is that this (the putting of crosses on the helmets) wasn't something the school asked or forced them to do. There was no 'establishment' by congress (or any government agency) in this.
The team wanted to do it, it was their decision, and their first amendment rights to free speech was trampled on by some sandy-vagina person and their attorney.
I understand said attorney is catching nine kinds of hell.
I also am disgusted with no balls ASU (Mohair and ASU attorney) for caving so easy. NO BALLS.
The team wanted to do it, it was their decision, and their first amendment rights to free speech was trampled on by some sandy-vagina person and their attorney.
I understand said attorney is catching nine kinds of hell.
I also am disgusted with no balls ASU (Mohair and ASU attorney) for caving so easy. NO BALLS.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:13 am to BillyBobPorkin
The precedent for wearing crosses on helmets was set long ago, after the Marshall University plane crash:
Posted on 9/15/14 at 10:18 am to TheDude321
It's a state public University so no crosses, period.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 10:47 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
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It's a state public University so no crosses, period.
I love Jesus, but kige'd.
If the players want to do it fine, but the university shouldn't sanction it.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 10:53 am to 3nOut
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If the players want to do it fine, but the university shouldn't sanction it.
The team should be allowed to do whatever they want in this regard.
Also, LOL @ Stonehog in this thread. Thank you for being a wonderful example of liberals everywhere, just accepting what you're told without a hint of critical thinking whatsoever. Go read the Constitution before speaking again.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 10:53 am to 3nOut
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If the players want to do it fine, but the university shouldn't sanction it.
I'm 99% sure the University didn't come up with the idea.
I'm 99% sure the players/coaches came up with it. I'm 100% sure none of the players had a problem with it.
I'm 100% sure the players wanted to do it.
I'm 99% sure the University didn't even pay for it.
I'm 1000000000000% sure that Stonehog should walk into busy intersection.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 12:39 pm to BillyBobPorkin
Arkansas State lifts ban on football helmet crosses, but players must foot bill for decals
Arkansas State University called an audible and decided to reverse its decision banning memorial crosses that football players had placed on their helmets to honor two fallen teammates.
The team had been ordered to either remove or modify the small cross decals, honoring former player Markel Owens and former team equipment manager Barry Weyer, following complaints that the cross violated the Establishment Clause of the U.S. Constitution.
“It is the university’s position that any player who wishes to voluntarily place an NCAA-compliant sticker on their helmet to memorialize individuals will be able to do so,” the university announced in a letter.
How sad that we live in a nation where it is against the law for a university football coach to design a memorial that includes a religious icon.
Liberty Institute, a law firm that specializes in religious liberty issues, had given the university until Wednesday to reverse its decision or face a possible lawsuit. They represented one of the ASU football players.
“This is a great victory for the players of Arkansas State University,” said Hiram Sasser, director of litigation for Liberty Institute. “The university officials and the Arkansas Attorney General did the right thing restoring the religious liberty and free speech rights of the players to have the original cross sticker design if they so choose and we commend them for doing so.”
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Religion wins this one, non-believers lose
Arkansas State University called an audible and decided to reverse its decision banning memorial crosses that football players had placed on their helmets to honor two fallen teammates.
The team had been ordered to either remove or modify the small cross decals, honoring former player Markel Owens and former team equipment manager Barry Weyer, following complaints that the cross violated the Establishment Clause of the U.S. Constitution.
“It is the university’s position that any player who wishes to voluntarily place an NCAA-compliant sticker on their helmet to memorialize individuals will be able to do so,” the university announced in a letter.
How sad that we live in a nation where it is against the law for a university football coach to design a memorial that includes a religious icon.
Liberty Institute, a law firm that specializes in religious liberty issues, had given the university until Wednesday to reverse its decision or face a possible lawsuit. They represented one of the ASU football players.
“This is a great victory for the players of Arkansas State University,” said Hiram Sasser, director of litigation for Liberty Institute. “The university officials and the Arkansas Attorney General did the right thing restoring the religious liberty and free speech rights of the players to have the original cross sticker design if they so choose and we commend them for doing so.”
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Religion wins this one, non-believers lose
This post was edited on 9/18/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 9/18/14 at 12:41 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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1000000000000
Too low.
Frick the atheist zealots.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 2:59 pm to BillyBobPorkin
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Arkansas State lifts ban on football helmet crosses, but players must foot bill for decals
Eat it Atheists, EAT A BIG THEIST DICK.
Especially Stonehog, I hope this news offends every nerve ending in your labia minora and you kill yourself.
WE WIN, YOU ALL LOSE, SUCK IT.
Meh, I really didn't care
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