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re: Sims is better than Coker... let's be real.

Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:01 am to
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:01 am to
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The sad part is the lack of acceptance for Blake for "whatever" reason lol


What do you mean lack of acceptance. Who DOESN'T like Sims? He's one of the most likable guys on the team. He's all Bama all the time.

By all indications to this point, the QB battle isn't over. If it is, cool. If it isn't, cool. We'll fine out Saturday.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:01 am to
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with all these imaginary gifts Coker can't seem to win ANY QB battles with less talented (Sims) or experienced (Winston) QBs...


I think it has to do with the other players responding better to Sims. Probably because he's been in the program so long.

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The sad part is the lack of acceptance for Blake for "whatever" reason lol.


I realize you want this to be a race thing, but it really isn't. Maybe Sims is the better QB. That's fine, but that just means we definitely aren't winning any championships this season. Hopefully he proves me wrong but it looked pretty clear to me that he can't make the throws he will need to make.

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I can't figure out if the desire for Coker to be the man is because you're embarrassed that you were trolled to the nth degree by Jimbo and the medidiots or because you just want the white boy to be the man.


Can we ban this race baiter? This garbage has no place on the Bama board. Race has nothing to do with the legit criticism of Sims.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 9:02 am
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:02 am to
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So since her can overthrow people deep he gives us a better chance of winning?



I didn't fricking say he had a better chance of winning.

And yeah, I am fricking mad. Past few days no one actually listens to what anyone says. They see what they want. I didn't say he gives us a better chance of winning.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:04 am to
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I have a great idea of what that reason is. You will be able to tell next year when Cornwell beats him out and no one says a word, not a fricking word.


That isn't the same. None of us have seen Cornwell or Coker in a game. We had all seen plenty of Sims to know how he plays. He doesn't have the upside to take us to a championship. I'm not sure how anyone can watch him play and think he does.

ETA: Next year's QB battle will likely roll into the season like every other season's QB battle.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 9:07 am
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:05 am to
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They see what they want. I didn't say he gives us a better chance of winning.
So if he doesn't give us a better chance of winning then why go with him. If we don't get the defense shored up we are screwed with whomever qbs, even Joe fricking Montana
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:06 am to
Cornwell is a weird example. Cornwell has a big arm. I see him like Coker. Lots of upside. Don't know if he comes ANYWHERE near it, but gotta love the upside.

But let them use the race excuse.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:07 am to
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So if he doesn't give us a better chance of winning then why go with him


Holy fricking shite.

I did not say we should go with him.

He does deserve a chance, and based on Saban's comments and even Blake's comments, he will get that chance. If he sucks, cool. I know I won't give a shite because we have Blake. If he's good, cool, we have two good QBs.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:10 am to
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But let them use the race excuse.


It's just lame. Who cares what color our qb is? Are we supposed to believe people would be criticizing a Cam Newton at QB? Or a Jamarcus Nelson? Michael Vick?

We're not talking about a great QB here. Take the damn race glasses off.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 9:11 am
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:11 am to
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Who cares what color our qb is?


Probably about 20 people total, and I doubt any of them post here.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50257 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:13 am to
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So if he doesn't give us a better chance of winning then why go with him. If we don't get the defense shored up we are screwed with whomever qbs, even Joe fricking Montana


Our defense only gave up one touchdown. Maybe they'll be good all season and our QB play won't need to be amazing.

Do you feel confident Sims could lead a come-from-behind victory with his arm?

ETA: Yes I know our secondary needs to improve.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 9:16 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:16 am to
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Sims could get us to 8-9 wins.




Were you saying this about McCarron and GMac? Because he looked better than those guys in their first starts.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50257 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:17 am to
I dunno. Did you miss the throws behind wide open receivers on crossing routes? That, to me, is the biggest issue. He can throw a ball straight to a standing receiver but I didn't see him hit many moving targets.

ETA: Weren't GMac and AJ in QB battles to start their first seasons too?
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 9:20 am
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:18 am to
Sims looked better than GMAC for sure. But CFB as changed in a short time. We can't win a title with another GMAC.

As for AJ, everyone knew AJ had ability, and he was throwing the ball down field. Not making an excuse, Sims definitely had a better first game, but AJ had less question marks going into 2011 than Sims does now. Sims will have a chance to answer them though, and I think he will.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:21 am to
I think we've seen what he can do. Hopefully I'm wrong.
Posted by BamaStepL
Ttown
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:23 am to
The Sports science guy did a thing on throwing velocity... he made a statement that the harder a ball is thrown it decreases accuracy...


This is a great example... by the QBs with really strong arms number of NFL titles to the number of QBs with decent arm strength.. who use ball placement and timing to get the job done... Big armed QBs tend to hold the ball longer because they aren't as concerned with timing.. they just want to fit the ball in tight spaces which leads to balls being defended well dropped or just incomplete...

Coker also has the propensity to have balls batted at the line... most 6'0 QBs do not have this issue as much as people think it makes since. Taller QBs have to throw "down" while shorter QBs throw "up".. lots of tall QBs have passes batted pretty regularly.

I don't think Blake had a pass even almost batted or could not tell that standing behind 6'5 lineman posed a problem...

saying that WRs got yards for the QB is quite stupid and I know Joe Montana thinks it's dumb... it's a great throw when your Wr has room to make a play after the catch... that's called good ball placement. but go on feeding the narrative that Blake CANNOT do what y'all think he can't... The whole time he's been proving you all wrong...

what's another few weeks...
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:24 am to
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I dunno. Did you miss the throws behind wide open receivers on crossing routes? That, to me, is the biggest issue. He can throw a ball straight to a standing receiver but I didn't see him hit many moving targets.

GMAC missed throws all the fricking time, McElroy overthrew the deep ball regularly
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:31 am to
No one said he didn't.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:33 am to
We're through the looking glass, people. Lane Kiffin is our OC. Blakesiah is our QB. It's fun. So you can't win a title with GMac anymore? Thank God we don't have a GMac playing QB. Some of you guys seem terrified of change. Blakesiah is a mobile, athletic guy who can make a lot of throws and a lot of plays with his feet as well. He's not Aaron Rodgers, but if he continues to get confident, and we play to his strengths, the kid could be a weapon like Bama hasn't had under Saban. Embrace the chaos. Saban has. Roll Tide.
Posted by BamaStepL
Ttown
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:33 am to
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imjustafatkid
Sims is better than Coker... let's be real.
I think we've seen what he can do. Hopefully I'm wrong.


Yeah 73% completion sucks... 9/16 3rd down conversions is horrible.. if we have a QB who could only do that we are finished.

I mean if we can't get the ball to Coop more than 12 times while 2 RBs go for 100+ we can't beat anyone...

Geez until White got hurt we were pacing 2 100 yd WRs... maybe 3 if Jones hands don't go to crap.

NONE of your complaints are warranted... just some dumb titty babies who can't have your way... I'm feasting on your tears.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:37 am to
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Yeah 73% completion sucks... 9/16 3rd down conversions is horrible.. if we have a QB who could only do that we are finished.



No one said he sucks or is horrible.

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NONE of your complaints are warranted... just some dumb titty babies who can't have your way... I'm feasting on your tears.



Wow.
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