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re: Gurley returning kickoffs

Posted on 8/23/14 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by WhopperDawg
Member since Aug 2013
3073 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 1:24 pm to
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Nah...there have been absolutely no rule changes or discussions at the pro or college level about changing or totally eliminating kick offs because of the increased injury risk.


Exactly.

Gurley returning kickoffs. :banghead:
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

Gurley returning kickoffs



how bout "noooo" you crazy dutch bastard
Posted by samson'sseed
Augusta
Member since Aug 2013
2070 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 8:56 am to
Last year, none of Georgia's kick returners got injured during kick-offs.

Marshall was lost for the season on a routine safety valve swing pass.

Gurley lost time by spraining his ankle on (if I remember correctly) a toss sweep that he ran out of bounds.

The risk for injury on kick-offs may be greater for non-kick returners, but it isn't greater for the kick returners themselves.
Posted by Sanford&MunSon
T'Ville
Member since Jan 2013
2901 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 9:21 am to
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It isn't greater for the kick returners themselves


You haven't watched much football in the last ten years have you?

Think of it from a physics stand point. When two objects are barreling towards each other at full speed the collision is going to be extremely violent, a lot of times moreso than plays from the los. Now take Gurley who weighs 230lbs. The more an object weighs the greater the violence of the impact. Why would you risk your star player when you have other guys uniquely suited for the role?
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 9:22 am
Posted by UGALife478
Leesburg, GA
Member since Jun 2013
614 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 9:30 am to
I really hope this doesn't happen. I think Michel or Mckenzie would be good at this and hopefully they will be able to prove them selves as freshmen and this would give them more playing time.
Posted by Sanford&MunSon
T'Ville
Member since Jan 2013
2901 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 9:38 am to
I'd bet a batch of fresh boiled peanuts that this doesn't happen.
Posted by Dawgs9
Where ever I am
Member since Sep 2012
1936 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 9:43 am to
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Did against clemson last year





Which means nothing this year, again
Its not going to happen
Posted by samson'sseed
Augusta
Member since Aug 2013
2070 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 10:15 am to
Posted by bulldawger
Fish Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2010
2882 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 10:32 am to
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You can't constantly play the game of football by being afraid of injury.



Not afraid of injury. Afraid that my remote won't work after throwing it against the wall if he did get hurt returning a kick off.

Not a good idea.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 11:50 am to
I seriously have no idea why this is even a debate
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63768 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:09 pm to
Kickoff yes
Punt no
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
6619 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:11 pm to
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There is no greater risk of getting injured on a kickoff than on running the ball 20 times a game.


Apparently you've never played on Special Teams. I got slobber knockered more times than I care to count in high school. And I wasn't even the returner.
Posted by Swin
Marietta
Member since Sep 2012
919 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:55 pm to
To clarify, I'm not suggesting we do this unless we need a really big play in a crucial game. I'm saying, given the teeny tiny bit of evidence we have, I wouldn't be surprised to see gurley back there at some point in time. I'm actually against doing this for the most part.

FYI, it definitely puts a huge strength against a pretty big weakness of theirs.
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/24/14 at 2:02 pm to
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suggesting we do this unless we need a really big play in a crucial game.


That is recipe for disaster especially if you stick somebody back there fielding kicks who doesn't practice that OFTEN. Even someone as talented as Gurley will frick that shite up and mishandle the ball. Sorry but forget everything you have learned from sports movies and fricking Madden football games.
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Lord of the Board
Member since Nov 2012
2045 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 2:03 pm to
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I seriously have no idea why this is even a debate
Me too. After watching Mckenzie and Michel return kickoffs and punts the other day, there is absolutely no way in hell that Gurley should be on the field for a kick return, we'll be more than fine with one of those two freshmen out there.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63768 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 2:05 pm to
I agree with this.


I think all the backs should be in regular KR practices.

Tre Mason did KR for auburn. Most teams put their most dangerous guy back there.

We put boykin back there, secondary would be fricked without boykin but we put him there anyway, with great results.

All purpose yards wins games and heisman's.
Posted by Swin
Marietta
Member since Sep 2012
919 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

That is recipe for disaster especially if you stick somebody back there fielding kicks who doesn't practice that OFTEN.


1. If we were talking about punts, I would completely agree with you. There is no room for error on punts.
2. This is not the case with kick offs. If you mishandle the ball on a kickoff you have room to recover.
3. Gurley is our most dangerous player with the ball in his hands. Period. End of discussion. We get better with him returning kick offs so long as he doesn't get hurt.
4. By all accounts he is practicing returning kicks just as much as any of the other guys.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44621 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 9:30 pm to
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Tre Mason did KR for Auburn


We don't wanna see Gurley take too many hits like this one. LINK
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 5:31 am to
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That is recipe for disaster especially if you stick somebody back there fielding kicks who doesn't practice that OFTEN. Even someone as talented as Gurley will frick that shite up and mishandle the ball. Sorry but forget everything you have learned from sports movies and fricking Madden football games.




I don't even know what a Madden Football is but I agree that the top priority for a kick returner is the ability to actually field the ball...something we had trouble with last season.

Most of ya'll are probably too young to actually remember Herschell Walker playing but the goal line stalker returned kickoffs and punts from time to time while at UGA. Sure there is risk....getting out of bed in the morning is a risk, but the season is short and the stakes high...you gotta have your playmakers in touch with the ball as much as possible. Of course it ain't ideal but if it means the difference between 14-1 and 15-0 then hell yes Gurley should be returning punts, kickoffs, playing linebacker and selling popcorn in the stands during halftime as he plays second clarinet in the RCMB.....
Posted by samson'sseed
Augusta
Member since Aug 2013
2070 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 7:08 am to
The returner has the least chance of injury on a kick-off because he is looking for the guys who are going to hit him and has time to avoid the full brunt of the tackle.

It's everybody else who has a higher risk of getting injured because they can get hit from different angles and they are flying into each other.
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