re: Top Ten SEC coaches of all time

Spurrier. Who won seven conference titles in what is and was the SEC

FFS

Neyland is clearly the better coach.

If he hadn't taken several tours of duty (and before you say well duh it was WWII he served several years before that as well.) He would have added to an even better resume.

Spurrier should probably be #3 or 4, but to say he's better than Neyland is just rank trolling.

As much as I hate to admit it, I'm going to side with the Volunteers here. I really like OBC, I do, and (imho) he's one of the Greats of college football. But Neyland is a true legend, almost on par with the Bear himself. We can throw around statistics and numbers, and they won't "prove" anything because no objective number is any more reliable than the subjective value we assign to it. So my opinion is mostly just to show that other people besides UT fans -- indeed, other people who consider UT a rival -- also rank Neyland slightly above Spurrier. Given his ability to turn USCe around lately, that stands a good chance of changing when all is said and done.

To be honest, I'm glad I don't have to rank them at all. Accusations of bias based on Neyland's historical status vs Spurrier's ongoing contemporaneous status would be fair, as would pointing out that Spurrier still has more years to pad his numbers. So if I were forced to rank them at all, I'd be perfectly comfortable putting them in a tie.

(Incidentally, there's no reason to leave out any antecedents to the SEC when compiling the numbers. The Southern conference was so much a direct predecessor to the SEC that every single SEC member was also a Southern Conference member. Ten of the current fourteen members of the SEC were also members of the Southern Conference. That's pretty solid continuity there.)

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The media guide starts with 1933.

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Yes, because that was the first season of the conference in its current incarnation. The Southern Conference still exists, after all, albeit without a single charter member. There's no continuity there. The point I was making was one of what I considered reasonable continuity, not some empirical standard of inclusion. Choices made by the creators of the media guide don't necessarily invalidate a willingness to consider the prior incarnation. You can choose not to, just as I can choose to do so.

You don't need to convince me of anything. I have facts on my side.

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You don't need to convince me of anything. I have facts on my side.

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You have facts. They don't take a position, however. They're facts. Note above where I point out that the value of these "objective" numbers depends on the subjective weight you assign them.

Look, I agree OBC is one of the truly great coaches in SEC history. I even think they're so close as to be hard to rank. Even your facts tend to put them in something akin to a statistical dead heat. Spurrier has more wins (in an era of more games per season.) Neyland has a much better win percentage. Spurrier did the bulk of his damage in a relatively weak period of SEC history, but has come on strong in the more recent, stronger period over the last few years. Neyland had his own periods of feast and famine in terms of the SEC's strength. And so forth. It's all about interpretation here, as I pointed out. So, once again, I'm mostly saying this to rebut your misapprehension that's it's just UT fans taking that particular stance.

There are no teams that have been in the b1g and the sec. There are 11 teams in common between the SEC and SC. Shut it

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Take it up with the SEC then, not me.

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I just called Slive (I have a Bama friend, so I can get his personal cell number) and he agrees with me. The only reason he won't change things is because the printing costs for the extra pages in the guide would be prohibitive.


True story.

He's trolling us