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Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:22 am to DawgsLife
forgot to list Mike Archer
my bad
my bad
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:44 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:49 am to Harry Rex Vonner
seems like an appropriate time to discuss Ole Miss ditching David Cutcliff for Ed Orgeron
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:55 am to Harry Rex Vonner
how was there an ill advised relationship with someone's daughter here?
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 7:57 am
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:56 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Bryant is number 1. Neyland is number 2. I'm open to debate about the rest, but I have a hard time seeing how Saban and Spurrier don't make the top 5.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 8:21 am to 12
Its already been done on BR and their list is much, much better: BR best SEC coachs OAT
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:37 am to Harry Rex Vonner
quote:
1. Bear Bryant
2. Bob Neyland
3. Frank Thomas
4. Wally Butts - I think his influence merits this rank
5. Steve Spurrier
6. Johnny Vaught
7. Vince Dooley
8. Nick Saban
9. Urban Meyer - I hate it, but yeah
10. Wallace Wade
Umm....Spurrier should be higher by any metric-- at least 3rd- he did for Florida what the Bear and Neyland did for Bama and UT-- turned them into the dominant program in the SEC and raised them so high that even when they left the program was still top 3 for at least 2 decades. I get dropping Meyer and Saban despite each winning multiple national titles-- unlike the Bear, Neyland or Spurrier neither Meyer or Saban fundamentally altered the course of a program or actually won all that many SEC titles outside of their National title years (hell, Saban didn't even win his division in one of those); Spurrier on the other hand won 6 titles at Florida and has raised another program to heights it had never achieved (if Conner Shaw doesn't get hurt and USC beats UT last season going to Atlanta I think there is a 50/50 shot Spurrier is #2 on this list- a national title at USCe would be insane).
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:50 am to socraticsilence
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unlike the Bear, Neyland or Spurrier neither Meyer or Saban fundamentally altered the course of a program
The frick are you talking about? Saban didn't fundamentally alter the course of LSU or Bama?
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:53 am to Harry Rex Vonner
I'm an unofficial SEC historian, and I "tier" the top ten SEC coaches as follows:
Tier I
Bryant
Tier II
Neyland
Saban
Tier III
Dooley
Jordan
Spurrier
Vaught
Tier IV
Fulmer
Miles
Thomas
I realize that this is a top ten thread, but there are legitimate other tiers.
Tier V
Wade
Tier VI
Cholly Mac
Dye
Richt
Stallings
Tier VII
Butts
Dickey
Majors
Tuberville
Tier I
Bryant
Tier II
Neyland
Saban
Tier III
Dooley
Jordan
Spurrier
Vaught
Tier IV
Fulmer
Miles
Thomas
I realize that this is a top ten thread, but there are legitimate other tiers.
Tier V
Wade
Tier VI
Cholly Mac
Dye
Richt
Stallings
Tier VII
Butts
Dickey
Majors
Tuberville
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 10:11 am
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:55 am to Tornado Alley
I would put both Wade and Thomas in that Tier III.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:02 am to pvilleguru
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I would put both Wade and Thomas in that Tier III.
I realize both of the coaches' historical significance, especially Wade, in being catalysts for putting and keeping Southern football on the map, but Tier III was more of a "sustained success" category.
Wade bolted for Duke too soon and Thomas succumbed to heart disease at an early age.
I don't feel like looking it up, but I'd be willing to wager that Dooley, Spurrier, and Vaught all coached at least twenty seasons at SEC institutions throughout their careers.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:08 am to Tornado Alley
quote:Interesting that you'd leave a HOF coach off completely.
I'm an unofficial SEC historian, and I "tier" the top ten SEC coaches as follows:
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:10 am to joeyb147
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Interesting that you'd leave a HOF coach off completely.
shite. I completely forgot that drunk, Irish cheater
Check for an edit
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:28 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
1. Bear Bryant
2. Nick Saban
3 ?
4 ?
5 ?
6 ?
7 ?
8 ?
9 ?
10 ?
2. Nick Saban
3 ?
4 ?
5 ?
6 ?
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10 ?
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:59 am to Tornado Alley
quote:
I realize both of the coaches' historical significance, especially Wade, in being catalysts for putting and keeping Southern football on the map, but Tier III was more of a "sustained success" category.
Wade bolted for Duke too soon and Thomas succumbed to heart disease at an early age.
I don't feel like looking it up, but I'd be willing to wager that Dooley, Spurrier, and Vaught all coached at least twenty seasons at SEC institutions throughout their careers
I can agree with some of that, but Thomas was at UA for 15 years.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 11:32 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Bryant
Neyland
Vaught
Dooley
Spurrier
Butts
Wade
Thomas
Saban
Miles
Jordan
Meyer
Dietzel
McClendon
Neyland
Vaught
Dooley
Spurrier
Butts
Wade
Thomas
Saban
Miles
Jordan
Meyer
Dietzel
McClendon
Posted on 7/31/14 at 11:35 am to BigOrangeBri
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BigOrangeBri
Thanks for conceding.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 12:42 pm to Korin
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All of Spurrier's SEC titles weren't shared.
Neyland coached in an era where you could have a shared conference champion. Once they added a conference championship game, the chance for a shared conference title was eliminated.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 1:10 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
1. Adolph Rupp
2. Bear Bryant
Both Kentucky coaches.
At the same time.
2. Bear Bryant
Both Kentucky coaches.
At the same time. 
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