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Posted on 7/28/14 at 11:55 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Needs to be on every page.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:01 am to scrooster
I prefer being #1
Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:03 am to BlackCloud
I thought was was a bump from one of the previous six or so threads that have asked that question this off season!
BTW....extremely pleased with the move!
Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:04 am to Aggball
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9/10. That 1 point is reserved for having to play fat Bert. Hate that we have to be in the same stadium as that fat f***.
THIS is the kind of pre-season trash talk I like to see. Welcome to the SEC, Aggots.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:11 am to Roger Klarvin
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9.5, literally the only downside is that we probably would have played for a national title in 2012 had we stayed in the Big XII with Sumlin.
This is accurate. No way ND gets in over JFF and company with the way they played the majority of their games even though ESPN does love them some Notre Dame.
For Mizzou I'd go with a 7. Nice to win the SEC East, but it has to feel like every Big 12 North title they'd won, except in a slightly more competitive division. It really is too early to tell though. If they can get solid recruiting classes things can work out really well, but in the Big 12 North they would always be the favorite, and in the SEC East they will be bringing in the 5th best recruiting classes.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:15 am to Dawgsontop34
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This is accurate. No way ND gets in over JFF and company with the way they played the majority of their games even though ESPN does love them some Notre Dame.
Again, JFF wouldn't have started over Showers had we stayed in the big12 and kept Sherman as coach.
No SEC move, no coaching change. No coaching change, no JFF until 2013, most likely.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:19 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Again, JFF wouldn't have started over Showers had we stayed in the big12 and kept Sherman as coach. No SEC move, no coaching change. No coaching change, no JFF until 2013, most likely.
No way Sherman is the coach after that atrocity of an attempt at coaching in 2011. A&M should have been 11-1, and his poor coaching cost them game after game. He should have been fired off that Texas game alone. Maybe he would have stayed, but I have a very hard time believing the A&M fans would have been ok with that.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:23 am to Dawgsontop34
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No way Sherman is the coach after that atrocity of an attempt at coaching in 2011. A&M should have been 11-1, and his poor coaching cost them game after game. He should have been fired off that Texas game alone. Maybe he would have stayed, but I have a very hard time believing the A&M fans would have been ok with that.
The bigger reason he was pressured out was that he wasn't 100% on board with the SEC move. We've kept underachieving coaches around far past their welcome before.
The SEC move changed the dynamic of the entire situation.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:25 am to TbirdSpur2010
10.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:04 am to Dawgsontop34
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No way Sherman is the coach after that atrocity of an attempt at coaching in 2011. A&M should have been 11-1, and his poor coaching cost them game after game. He should have been fired off that Texas game alone. Maybe he would have stayed, but I have a very hard time believing the A&M fans would have been ok with that.
Trust me. We Ags tried to be supportive of Sherman for as long as possible. He looked promising for a little while but 2011 was the last straw. We blew like 4 games where we had a 21 point lead at the half, literally. I'm not even joking. All of us were calling for him to get fired. The fan base was furious.
The last straw however was the last loss to Texas. It was just inexcusable. You want to get fired? Lose to the longhorns while on the hot seat. Almost guaranteed. Our fan base was ready to go up in arms. If anything, that loss to Texas in 2011 might be the single most important game we have had in a long, long while. That along with the LHN being created, we wanted out.
That season pushed Sherman out, pushed us into the SEC, got us Sumlin which in turn got us to start JFF, the combination of the 3 got us back into the national spotlight, it gave us 20 wins in our first 2 seasons, back to back top 10 recruiting classes with 2015 currently rated at number 2 by 247. It got us 3 quarters of a billion in donations, a 450 million dollar stadium expansion/renovation along with a 70 million dollar facilities/locker room/weight room renovation. The future is so bright. The ceiling is so high. 10/10 without a single doubt. Glad to be here finally. It's weird, it almost feels like this was always our true calling and we've just returned home.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 1:08 am
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:18 am to BamaDoc14
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If they stayed in the Big 12, they'd still have Mike Sherman, Johnny Manziel never would have left the bench, and would still blow 2nd half leads.
FIFthemoron
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 1:19 am
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:21 am to TbirdSpur2010
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No SEC move, no coaching change
Sherman's firing had as much if not more to do with the 2011 collapses, the loss to Texas in the last game being the final straw.
Even without the move, it would have been almost impossible to justify keeping Sherman IMO. Now whether or not we get in over Notre Dame in 2012 is a legitimate question.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:21 am to Dawgsontop34
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No way Sherman is the coach after that atrocity of an attempt at coaching in 2011. A&M should have been 11-1, and his poor coaching cost them game after game. He should have been fired off that Texas game alone. Maybe he would have stayed, but I have a very hard time believing the A&M fans would have been ok with that.
1. Many of the big money donors were of the mindset that "as long as we beat Texas, we've had a successful season".
2. Dennis Franchione should have been fired after the 2005 season, but it took serious HIPPA violations and a "VIP newsletter" to fire him two seasons later
3. R.C. Slocum should have been fired after the 1996 season, especially with his very public divorce fiasco. The only reason he was fired in 2002 was that Wally Groff could no longer protect him.
Back to Sherman: Here are the following significant impact players in 2012 that saw little to no playing time in 2011:
Deshazor Everett
Mike Evans
Johnny Manziel
Steven Terrell
Kirby Ennis (yes, THAT Kirby Ennis)
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 1:26 am
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:27 am to Roger Klarvin
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Even without the move, it would have been almost impossible to justify keeping Sherman IMO.
We gave Dennis Franchione an extension after a 7-5 season in which we lost to Baylor for the first time in 20 years. We kept Franchione after the 2005 season when he should have been fired in the postgame press conference after Iowa State won by 28 points at Kyle Field.
Do NOT understate Bill Byrne's complete ineptitude when it came to football.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 1:28 am
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:28 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Dennis Franchione should have been fired after the 2005 season
We couldn't afford to fire Fran in 2005, much like we cant afford to fire Sumlin now. His (largely undeserved) raise/extension after the 2004 season locked us in for another three years before buying him out was even an option.
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R.C. Slocum should have been fired after the 1996 season,
The frick? He went undefeated in 1994, 9-3 in 1995 and won two consecutive Big XII titles in '97 and '98. I don't get this comment at all and have never heard another Aggie express it.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:29 am to Roger Klarvin
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The frick? He went undefeated in 1994, 9-3 in 1995 and won two consecutive Big XII titles in '97 and '98. I don't get this comment at all and have never heard another Aggie express it.
It was very close to a "Bobby Petrino" situation involving one of his employees.
Or have you forgotten about the stories about his ex-wife bringing all his shite to practice and dumping it on the field in front of the players?
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 1:33 am
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:30 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Do NOT understate Bill Byrne's complete ineptitude when it came to football.
Except Byrne didn't fire Sherman, and Sumlin wasn't his choice for replacement. Both moves were forced by Loftin and the BOR, which would have happened regardless.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:31 am to Roger Klarvin
That's the point. The instant that Byrne showed he wasn't onboard with the SEC move, he was "mitigated".
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:33 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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It was very close to a "Bobby Petrino" situation involving one of his employees.
Meh, lots of coaches were nailing secretaries back then
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