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re: OFFICIAL Auburn vs. Texas A&M Watch Thread ESPNU 6:00 CT

Posted on 7/26/14 at 8:50 am to
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Both are textbook examples.
Not sure how you're differentiating?


I don't know the official rule, and I'm sure it still qualifies as a horse collar, but a major difference is that Frost actually has Manziel from across the front as well and kind of spins him down rather than yanking him down completely from behind which is what causes the type of injury that made horse collars illegal in the first place.

Again, I'm sure by the letter of the law it's still a horse collar but if an official was going to justify his call that's how he could do it.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 8:53 am
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61547 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:49 am to
We won


JFF KO'ed



/thread
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:57 am to
quote:

/thread


NOPE.

Revenge cometh in the Fall
Posted by IceColdBeer
Sunbathing in Mission Beach
Member since Jan 2014
1076 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:57 am to
Watching this game again just reminds me of how terrible A+Ms Defense was and will be also Manziel is going to be a terrible NFL QB
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:58 am to
/troll
Posted by IceColdBeer
Sunbathing in Mission Beach
Member since Jan 2014
1076 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:02 am to
You beg to differ?

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:04 am to
Just calling your comments what they are.

I don't give a frick what you think, though. You do you
Posted by IceColdBeer
Sunbathing in Mission Beach
Member since Jan 2014
1076 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:10 am to
If they are fact is difficult for it to be a troll

You do you? how ghetto
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61547 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:12 am to
quote:

Revenge cometh in the Fall


We will see about that... I don't think you will be as bad
as some predict but you will drop off.

We should be strong if we don't keep getting injuries.

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:20 am to
quote:

If they are fact is difficult for it to be a troll


They are opinions, which you're entitled to, of course.

quote:

You do you? how ghetto


Damn straight.




Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:22 am to
quote:

I don't think you will be as bad
as some predict but you will drop off.


Imma just employ a "wait and see" approach to this year.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28280 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Revenge cometh in the Fall


I agree.

#neverforget2012
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61547 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:37 am to
quote:

#neverforget2012



I have never left a Auburn game early. And I have been to a bunch of games. That game was the closest I have ever come. I made myself stay and suffer with the team.


Its amazing how bad we were. I hear people say all the time how big of a miracle it was that we were so good in 2013. In my eyes, the real miracle was 2012. There is no way that team should have been that bad.

Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28280 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:44 am to
That was the first season I can ever remember where I dreaded football Saturday. I knew the kids would quit before the end of every game. That was soooooooooo painful to watch. I have seen some bad Auburn teams in my lifetime. I have never seen one play with so little passion. I hope I never see it again.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:47 am to
quote:

I hear people say all the time how big of a miracle it was that we were so good in 2013. In my eyes, the real miracle was 2012. There is no way that team should have been that bad.


This is true. The 2012 squad was a 7-8 win team with a band of idiots at the helm. As sad as it is the kids had to quit to help everyone see how dysfunctional the staff was and how bad the team environment had become.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 11:49 am
Posted by AgCoug
Houston
Member since Jan 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:53 am to
frick that game!

and frick wheel routes!


Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61547 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:56 am to
quote:

and frick wheel routes!


When I was watching the replay yesterday, I was still amazed at Davis's on hand helmet catch on the wheel route at 3rd and long.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38001 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

I don't know the official rule, and I'm sure it still qualifies as a horse collar, but a major difference is that Frost actually has Manziel from across the front as well and kind of spins him down rather than yanking him down completely from behind which is what causes the type of injury that made horse collars illegal in the first place.

Again, I'm sure by the letter of the law it's still a horse collar but if an official was going to justify his call that's how he could do it.



I agree with this.

From the pictures posted a page back, the lower one JFF is pulled directly down from his collar.

On the Frost play, he has his hand on JFF's collar and his side/arm and spins him to his side.

Again, you may be right about the "letter of the law". But the two plays ARE easily differentiated.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:44 pm to
Just watched the game again. Gary's initial reaction was right. No horse collar.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84827 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:48 pm to
This the time that A&M lost a home game?
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