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re: Seriously, if not Bham -- where should the SEC

Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:11 am to
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:11 am to
I concede your first few points but the last sentence is a joke. Nearly all of the handful of jobs at the SEC headquarters are lucrative jobs financially. Having to live in Bham isn't going to stop bright people from moving there to take a position especially given what these positions pay. It sure as hell didn't stop Mike Slive, arguably the SEC'S most successful commissioner ever from taking the job.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:19 am to
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rednecks


Talk about a pot calling a kettle?

Really?!

You can express your point regarding Birmingham all you want, it still remains that Birmingham is considered equal to cities like , Huntsville, Montgomery , Savannah, Tallahassee, and yes Augusta when discussing US cities; not Charlotte, New Orleans, Nashville, and certainly Atlanta. It's just not the same , period. It's just not!

And being a sports town has nothing to do with bring the home of a major business. And yes Atlanta is not perceived to be a sports town, but only because if the pro teams , which is very short sighted. When it comes to college football is there any question to where the home is.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:24 am to
So why haven't they done that?

Mike Slive is the King don't get me wrong , not even questioning him.

But the others? Are they the best? I don't know!

I'm sure Bham is a lovely town. But it is not the Mecca for top talent , doesn't matter how much , well it could I guess but for these positions a few extra thousand will not lure you from Houston , Nashville, or Atlanta , which without question the hottest growing areas for college professionals.

This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 1:26 am
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:33 am to
If it were moved to ATL, the same bias allegations would be levied towards UGA. At least in Bham you have two bitter rivals who can't agree on anything keeping each other in check.
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:41 am to
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If it were moved to ATL, the same bias allegations would be levied towards UGA. At least in Bham you have two bitter rivals who can't agree on anything keeping each other in check.

So Jackson, MS will work. 2 bitter rivals, too keep each other in check. And neither can be a constant threat.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9111 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:47 am to
It's hard to take what you say seriously when you equate metro Birmingham with "Huntsville, Montgomery Savannah, Tallahassee, and yes Augusta". Seriously, are you drunk, trolling, or simply that f'in clueless? Metro Birmingham is two and in some cases three TIMES bigger than all the cities you mentioned. In fact, up until a few years ago before metro New Orleans continued it's long term recovery from Katrina, metro Birmingham was actually larger than metro New Orleans. Yet you act like Birmingham is some podunk metro on par with Macon, Savannah, or Augusta. Are you really that clueless about a metro area only 150 miles from your beloved Atlanta?

P.S. I used the word "redneck" because I had a childhood friend from Alabama that moved to Griffin, GA (about 50 miles south of downtown Atlanta) in th 6th grade. He had a couple of really cool close friends. He also knew a handful of acquaintances who were rednecks that loved to tell State of Alabama jokes. It was so funny seeing rednecks from Georgia sitting on the high horse making fun of their own from Alabama. The irony totaply escaped them but hey, they lived an hour from downtown Atlanta so they were "kewl".
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 1:53 am
Posted by BrocraticMethod
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 4:54 am to
Baw, and ruin so many good conspiracies?
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 5:01 am to
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Agree Atlanta makes the most sense. I think Nashville would be a solid location


:kige:

Anything in Atlanta is another nail in the ACC coffin.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 5:19 am to
Rome, GA
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 6:12 am to
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It's considered one of the worst sports cities


Do what? You are pathetically clueless.

Let me see...hosted The Olympics,Super Bowls,World Series,
Final Fours,SECCG (thank God it was moved from that shithole to the Ga Dome.You're welcome the rest of the SEC)SEC and ACC
BB Championships, The Chic-Fil-A kickoff classic and Bowl (the most successful of all CFB kickoff games and most succesful non BCS bowl game) And soon to be host to one of the semi final games in the new CFB playoff format.Also home to the CFB HOF.

Is there another town in the country that host more important CFB games annually than Atlanta? Is there another town in the country thats hosted all these sporting events?

Sorry, I know I've stated FACTS here and I do apoligize

Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
41598 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 6:14 am to
I say keep it in B Ham or move it to Nashville..
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 6:35 am to
Are you delusional?

Maybe you consider Birmingham in the same level as Nashville, New Orleans, Charlotte, or Atlanta. But I promise you most do not.

I really don't care, if I moves to Atlanta. Even though I think that's the perfect location. However I do feel they might move to Charlotte, once the league expands. Which it's going to do, you can just see that's on the table. Why else put the network in Charlotte , when Atlanta, Nashville, Houston, and Orlando offer the same media needs.

Also I didn't say there weren't rednecks in GA, but it's pretty funny someone from Alabama calling them out.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 6:41 am
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 6:37 am to
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Why else put the network in Charlotte , when Atlanta, Nashville, Houston, and Orlando offer the same media needs.


Cause ESPN already owns the ESPNU studio in Charlotte and it was easier to renovate than build a new studio elsewhere. This is also the studio ESPN Plus has always used to produce products for SEC TV which was the regional predecessor to SEC Network.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 6:40 am
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 6:38 am to
Sorry but, I know a lot think Atlanta is a UGA town , but it's not really. UGA hardly gets favorable press, it gets slammed as much as praised. Atlanta really offers little allegiance to its schools or it's teams, most if this because of how fast it's still growing.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 6:51 am to
Well that's a good point, but since all signs point to ESPN working to develop the ACCN, why not reserve that for them?
Of course the faculty may be big enough to house all 3 or the could expand , which will probably happen.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 6:56 am to
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Well that's a good point, but since all signs point to ESPN working to develop the ACCN, why not reserve that for them?
Of course the faculty may be big enough to house all 3 or the could expand , which will probably happen.


I can see your point, but the SECN is the basket ESPN will put most of their eggs in, and it very well may be big enough to house all of them.

More information on the studios.. (published before SECN moved in)

quote:

Today, ESPN Regional shares a 37,000-square-foot office and studio space in south Charlotte with ESPNU, a dedicated college network available in 75 million homes. The SEC Network will also be housed at the Ballantyne complex.

Justin Connolly, ESPN senior vice president of programming for college networks, will run the SEC Network when it launches in 11 months. Finebaum, hired in May, is the network’s first employee, but 100 to 120 people will work on the dedicated SEC channel by the time it hits the air.

ESPN Regional’s presence here was an important factor in landing the SEC Network. Direct air service from the US Airways hub also was a factor.

Mike Slive, the SEC commissioner, says the goal for the network is simple: to put the conference in front of as many viewers as possible. To make the network legitimate, Finebaum was a game-changer, the commissioner says.


Raycom Sports, formed in 1979, is the oldest sports-media company in Charlotte. Now owned by the Retirement Systems of Alabama, the company works as a subcontractor to ESPN to produce Atlantic Coast Conference football and basketball games.

Fifty people work full time for Raycom here. Raycom also runs the ACC website, fan festivals and sponsorship sales for the conference.

Based on the involvement of Raycom and ESPN in ACC broadcasts, it seems likely an ACC network, if created, would find a logical home in Charlotte. ACC executives have discussed the possibility of a conference channel in the past year, but nothing has happened to date.



quote:

More than 10 months out from the launch of the SEC Network, ESPN’s focus has been more on building the infrastructure for the channel than attracting talent.

The Charlotte offices that currently house ESPN Regional Television and ESPNU will soon become the home to the ESPN-run SEC Network, and that means 110 to 120 new employees. They’ll need desks. And studio space.


The SEC is home to nine of the top 10 markets for college football TV ratings.

With the incremental growth in heads and the need for additional studios, ESPN has begun looking into ways to expand its footprint in the Ballantyne business park in south Charlotte. The channel plans to lease extra space across the street from its current location and reconfigure the studio space it already has.


This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 7:02 am
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9111 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 8:16 am to
"Maybe you consider Birmingham on the same level as Nashville, Néw Orleans, Charlotte, Atlanta"

If you can find where I even began to make this claim other than where I correctly noted that metro Birmingham had a higher population than post Katrina metro New Orleans, you would have a point. I specifically called out the absurd notion you made that metro Birmingham was no bigger or more important than Augusta, Montgomery, Savannah, Macon, Huntsville, etc.

As for rednecks, of course Alabama has them. That wasn't the point. Alabama readily acknowledges it's rednecks. Georgia pretends like theirs don't exist and they act like they live some charmed life because they live near Atlanta.

As for Atlanta being a bad sports town, it's bad from the perspective of support for its local pro teams. Atlanta does well hosting the kind of events that don't necessarily need a lot of local fan support.

Birmingham for all its critics still holds the record for the 2 largest crowds in SEC Championship game history. The game is obviously perfect at the Georgia Dome however.

As for the SEC offices, I'd vote for Nashville way before Atlanta. Atlanta has a long history of being blatantly biased against Alabama. There would also be a lot of favoritism towards the SEC East.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 8:27 am
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9111 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 8:25 am to
Raycom is actually headquarted in Montgomery.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
41598 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 8:30 am to
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Raycom is actually headquarted in Montgomery.



I know, but Raycom isn't involved with SEC Network or any of it's programming, only ACC programming.
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
3087 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:16 am to
This site should be as close to the center for all schools as possible without being near a SEC school.
Why is it most of the posts in here want it to be in their state? Some of you are starting to act like politicians similar to the short guy at Alabama and Big Game. Just coach boys.

Can anyone be objective and do what is right for the league, and not just tout your own personal preferences?

Memphis seems right to me? Is is it in Arkansas or Tennessee?
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