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re: Is Dan Mullen already the best coach in MSST history?

Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:42 pm to
Posted by engie
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:42 pm to
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Houston Dale Nutt


Same Egg Bowl record as Hugh Freeze in his first 2 -- and a far superior overall record.
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:45 pm to
Freeze is better than HDN in every facet... Every facet... Give him some time.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112552 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:47 pm to
Y'all have finished above us in the standings three times in 10 years. We're pretty much doing a gay job of arguing semantics here. No one besides butt hurt LSU fans is going to give a shite about your LSU win last year unless Hugh takes the next step and gets to .500 or better in conference. Same with Mullen and going over .500 or upsetting someone.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40855 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:50 pm to
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Arkansas hasn't had 2 straight bowl wins since 75 & 77. Why do y'all do this to yourself


The question was has Arkansas "played" in four straight bowls. Pay attention.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68437 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:52 pm to
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Same Egg Bowl record as Hugh Freeze in his first 2 -- and a far superior overall record.

And far superior talent. Something like 13 NFL players.
Posted by Rebelgator
Pripyat Bridge
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:54 pm to
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Same Egg Bowl record as Hugh Freeze



Who gives a shite.

Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
16945 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:56 pm to
That LSU win was huge... They were ranked in the top 10 at the time... Freeze will have another win over a top 15 ranked team this year as well... OM may just finish with a winning record in SEC play this season... Far cry from the mess Nutt left.

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And far superior talent. Something like 13 NFL players.


It kind of annoys me that no one ever talks about this... Had Moncrief not declared early we'd have zero players drafted the past 2 NFL drafts.. Zero.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 11:59 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112552 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:57 pm to
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That LSU win was huge... They were ranked in the top 10 at the time.


big win, but poor finish to your season. You looked every bit of 3-5 vs. Mizzou and us.


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. Freeze will have another win over a top 15 ranked team this year as well...


Quick, name the only team to finish in the top 15 in MS in recent memory.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:58 pm to
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Quick, name the only team to finish in the top 15 in MS in recent memory


Ole Miss in 2008
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112552 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:58 pm to
Back in summer 2010 when y'all were getting ribbed for not winning more the previous years, pank and elisha, etc. were quick to point out that Nutt had to teach the talent to win first.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:58 pm to
We finished 14th in 2008
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68437 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:59 pm to
Compared to Orgeron, Nutt was a fricking genius at Xs and Os
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112552 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:00 am to
shite


recent memory is obviously 2010 +
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112552 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:04 am to
Hugh's Xs and O's are pretty terrible. That's kind of the elephant in the room as far as him, he's a great recruiter and program CEO but his play calling was abortion quality vs. Bama, Mizzou, A&M at the end, and us. The NKemdiche runs screamed high school.

Not that our play calling has much better, if at all. Mullen fired his scape goat so we'll see what happens with x's and o's, though I'm cynical on how much of the play calling Mullen really let get away from him.
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
16945 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:04 am to
I was talking to DMagic the other day about Nutt and Markuson's Oline recruiting... Just ranking the guys up front over the course of those 4 years... Jesus man... Sowell was the 3rd best Olineman Nutt ever signed.. Evan Swindall was top 5.





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Hugh's Xs and O's are pretty terrible. That's kind of the elephant in the room as far as him, he's a great recruiter and program CEO but his play calling was abortion quality vs. Bama, Mizzou, A&M at the end, and us. The NKemdiche runs screamed high school.


I think it's more of a personnel issue myself.. That and the fact that our QB hasn't been healthy since September of 2012.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 12:07 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112552 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:05 am to
Ethan Hutson was a beast
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68437 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:06 am to
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Hugh's Xs and O's are pretty terrible

Uh... what? Sorry NIH but no. The only bad games he has had calling plays are '13 Bama, Mizzou and y'all. His play calling was what won us 7 games in 2012 and beat LSU this past year.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 12:07 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112552 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:07 am to
You had two NFL caliber WRs and the best Hugh can come up with is shitty bubble screens? This is all the while your blocking is getting blown up on these plays. Horrible goal line calls. Go watch the 2009 LSU-State game and ask us if we're not familiar with that.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68437 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:09 am to
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You had two NFL caliber WRs and the best Hugh can come up with is shitty bubble screens?

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This is all the while your blocking is getting blown up on these plays.

Well you can't exactly have your quarterback do a 5 step drop and stand there when your o-line is getting blown up. Getting the ball out quick is the goal when that happens.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112552 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:09 am to
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beat LSU this past year


your DBs did that for you. Prewitt made Mettenberger his bitch.
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