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re: Spurrier Unlocked: Saban is a Great Recruiter, Not a Great Coach

Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by Dirty Whistle
Member since Jul 2011
1159 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:48 pm to
Silly me,I just can't remember the name of those coaches that never lost a game. Ever.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37572 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:48 pm to
Saban: 4 Titles
Spurrier: 1
Gus: 0

Nuff said
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91639 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:49 pm to
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See 2008 Georgia, 2009 Florida, 2009 Texas, 2011 LSU, 2012 Georgia
See 2008 Florida, 2008 Utah, 2010 Auburn, 2010 South Carolina, 2010 LSU, 2011 LSU, 2013 Auburn and 2013 Oklahoma.

FYI, I think he's a great coach and recruiter.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:49 pm to
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Miami
quote:
recruiting base
?


Yeah, I had to use the phrase recruiting base, but I didn't know how to phrase the sentence to include Miami.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:50 pm to
Could you guys imagine if Gus and Saban had the exact same talent to coach and then play a game against each other?

I would expect Gus's team to win by 2-3 TDs.

Spurrier vs Saban in the same scenario would be the same result. 2-3 TD win by OBC.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30832 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:50 pm to
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He is an excellent program builder at the college level but has also done that at two schools where anyone can win at.


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Tiger n Miami AU83


Paint chips are not meant as a snack.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2543 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:51 pm to
Saban has stated himself that he wasn't the best coach so he needed the best players.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37572 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:51 pm to
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Does anyone that is knowledgeable about football really think saban is a great coach?


You think Pat Dye was the GOAT and Saban has coached longer and is far more accomplished.

Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:51 pm to
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Saban has stated himself that he wasn't the best coach so he needed the best players.


Look gumps. Your God has spoken and agrees with TiM and thinks you guys are dumb.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 3:52 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:51 pm to
You just listed all of his losses in 7 years.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:51 pm to
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Does anyone that is knowledgeable about football really think saban is a great coach?



Being a head coach is so much more than playcalling (which is why so many great playcallers fail as HC's and stay coordinators.)
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:52 pm to
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Saban: 4 Titles
Spurrier: 1
Gus: 0
Bert: fat


FIFY
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38363 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:52 pm to
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Does anyone that is knowledgeable about football really think saban is a great coach?



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He pays Saban the ultimate compliment: He copies him.

“We talk on a pretty regular basis,” says Belichick. “If I ask Nick a question and he says, ‘Well, this is how we do it,’ then I usually just cut to where he is and take that shortcut and say, ‘Okay, we’re going to do it this way.’ I know that he’s already gone through all the stages of thinking it through, and I would rather just get to the stage that he’s at rather than waste the time figuring that I’m going to end up at that same point anyway.”




This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 3:56 pm
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:52 pm to
One coaching mistake had cost Nick Saban a good amount of games. Iron Bowl 2013. LSU 2011 Marquis Maze. 2012 pass intercepted by Everett at the goal line vs. TAMU.



Just stupid shite like that. And every time we could've won those games.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91639 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:53 pm to
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Saban has stated himself that he wasn't the best coach so he needed the best players.
Defensively, he is absolutely the best coach.

Now, when it comes to special teams, he has trouble. I don't know why. Maybe their practices don't emphasize it enough. Maybe he has trouble finding the right coach. Maybe he has trouble recruiting special teams.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:53 pm to
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He is an excellent program builder at the college level but has also done that at two schools where anyone can win at. Especially at bama with the highest player and coach bankroll to work with anywhere.




Using this phrase is a pet peeve of mine, ESPECIALLY after the suffering through the Hallman years and Bama suffering with Mike Shula.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38363 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:53 pm to
Are you implying Alabama should never lose a game? You made it sound like every time bama plays a team with talent similar to theirs then they lose, when that's simply not the case.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95865 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:54 pm to
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ESPECIALLY after the suffering through the Hallman years and Bama suffering with Mike Shula.




You don't know real pain!
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91639 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:54 pm to
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You just listed all of his losses in 7 years.
No, I left out 2007 Alabama's opponents.

That Alabama team was less talented than most of those teams they lost to.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:54 pm to
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Coaches and teams that are intimidated by the Bama mystique will get destroyed but if you play Bama mano y mano you'll win everytime. They're essentially bullies who crumble when someone stands up to them



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