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re: Pat Forde article calling SEC racist towards black basketball coaches
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:14 pm to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:14 pm to BluegrassBelle
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And it's pretty sad that you can't see far enough past constructive criticism that you feel the need to reinforce guys like Forde with a pretty backwards, blanket comment.
So yeah.
Oh sure. Saying blacks have a lower IQ than other races is extremely constructive criticism. Hey, black people, I say not as insult but with hopes you'll somehow get smarter from my critique -- y'all dumb.
The fact you took it personally is pretty telling, though.
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Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:15 pm to BluegrassBelle
If you can't see it, you're a racist.
Duh.
Duh.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:15 pm to randomways
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The fact you took it personally is pretty telling, though.
Too passive aggressive to just come out and call me racist ah?
Way to go guy.
This post was edited on 4/19/14 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:16 pm to BluegrassBelle
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To passive aggressive to just come out and call me racist ah?
Way to go guy.
What? I never called you out. You started yelling at me as if I had. What was I supposed to say?
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:18 pm to randomways
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Saying blacks have a lower IQ than other races is extremely constructive criticism.
Is it true? I don't know if it is. Do you? Are you bothered by the fact that 61% of division I basketball players are black? Is there an institutional racism in the game against white people?
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:19 pm to the808bass
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Is it true? I don't know if it is. Do you? Are you bothered by the fact that 61% of division I basketball players are black? Is there an institutional racism in the game against white people?
Ah, nevermind. I made the wrong assumption about you. My bad. Carry on.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:19 pm to randomways
You mean I called you out on your bullshite, blanket statement about the "ancillary support" in this thread for a racist South? I mean I guess if that counts as "yelling at you".
But this
Certainly suggested it. Don't try to backpedal now.
But this
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The fact you took it personally is pretty telling, though.
Certainly suggested it. Don't try to backpedal now.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:22 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Certainly suggested it. Don't try to backpedal now.
Huh? I wasn't backpedaling. That statement was in response to you acting like I'd called you out personally, which I hadn't. You're getting cause and effect mixed up here.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:22 pm to randomways
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Ah, nevermind. I made the wrong assumption about you. My bad. Carry on.
Scared by data? Another victim of PC. Prayers sent.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:38 pm to the808bass
I get what point randomways is trying to make. It's a fair one. This thread is surprisingly lacking in evidence for it though. Usually the idiots of tRant show out better. Honestly, the fact that people try so hard to find racism where it isn't happening drives "casual racism" where people are not conciously thinking about race, but do on a subconcious level.
It's like the boy who cried wolf. Every time the race card gets played invalidly, more people will expect your claims to be erroneous. If civil rights advocates would only focus on real injustices, they would be taken more seriously.
It's like the boy who cried wolf. Every time the race card gets played invalidly, more people will expect your claims to be erroneous. If civil rights advocates would only focus on real injustices, they would be taken more seriously.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:43 pm to the808bass
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Scared by data? Another victim of PC. Prayers sent.
Yeah, um, data. Missouri's a pretty good school. Assuming you went there -- and I'm going to for the sake of argument -- they should have taught you what a straw man argument is. You can't just throw in random factoids and hope they'll stick to the actual discussion in question.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:46 pm to DoreonthePlains
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I get what point randomways is trying to make. It's a fair one. This thread is surprisingly lacking in evidence for it though. Usually the idiots of tRant show out better. Honestly, the fact that people try so hard to find racism where it isn't happening drives "casual racism" where people are not conciously thinking about race, but do on a subconcious level.
It's like the boy who cried wolf. Every time the race card gets played invalidly, more people will expect your claims to be erroneous. If civil rights advocates would only focus on real injustices, they would be taken more seriously.
Most of it's fairly tame. I was -- and people jumping in to assume I meant them specifically derailed that -- trying to convey that there were still pockets (say, page 4 with the ITDawg and AUsteriskPride posts) where people inevitably validate the criticism by behaving exactly like people like Forde expects the rest of us to behave. The larger commentary on sociological invalidation you're discussing wasn't really part of what I was pointing out, which is why Belle made a mistake in assuming I was talking about her.
This post was edited on 4/19/14 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:49 pm to randomways
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Most of it's fairly tame. I was -- and people jumping in to assume I meant them specifically derailed that -- trying to convey that there were still pockets (say, page 4 with the ITDawg and AUsteriskPride posts) where people inevitably validate the criticism by behaving exactly like people like Forde expects the rest of us to behave.
So perpetuating a stereotype based on a whopping two posters in this thread is any better? I'd like to think the majority should be reinforcing the opinion instead of a couple. Of course that may only validate it for you.
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and people jumping in to assume I meant them specifically derailed that
Maybe if you laid off the passive aggressive comments when responding to someone, people would take you more seriously.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 1:19 pm to the808bass
My point to the whole thread and arguement is that RACISM does exist.And to think otherwise is not productive. And I know there is racism from ALL facets. Those that just think its against black people are ignorant to the facts also.
But history tells us that Black people have been the target of racism in america from the beginning. And there are still elements TODAY that would love to keep it that way. Denying that is putting your heads in the sand. While progress has been made, their is still a very long road to go. To say otherwise is asinine.
But history tells us that Black people have been the target of racism in america from the beginning. And there are still elements TODAY that would love to keep it that way. Denying that is putting your heads in the sand. While progress has been made, their is still a very long road to go. To say otherwise is asinine.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 1:22 pm to BluegrassBelle
I wasn't perpetuating a stereotype. I was pointing out, and rightly so, imho, that people who do perpetuate the stereotype are giving a sense of validation to people like Forde and his readers. If I were discussing my own perspectives, I'd happily point out that I've heard more casual racism when living in Michigan, Massachusetts, and New York than I ever heard living in Mississippi, Tennessee, and North Carolina (though more hardcore racism in Mississippi.) But my personal experiences had no relevance to the narrative of public perception.
Regardless of whether I worded it well enough to specifically exclude you, you still had no reason to jump in with the assumption I was talking about you.
Regardless of whether I worded it well enough to specifically exclude you, you still had no reason to jump in with the assumption I was talking about you.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 1:24 pm to BluegrassBelle
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How about your point out for us exactly what has been said in the last three pages that's so racist instead of beating around the bush?
"Well, I know I'll get blasted here, but blacks (on average), have the lowest IQ of any ethnicity."
Posted on 4/19/14 at 1:24 pm to Stonehog
Stonehog-That quote is precisely the mindset that many white people have because of the MEDIA. The right wing media wants people to believe that is so. But history says otherwise. Hell, the damn traffic light was invented by a black man but that is not in the history books. lol. Poster AUsterickPride is part of the problem, not the solution.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 1:30 pm to TeamLSU
Yeah he should get banned.
Posted on 4/19/14 at 1:31 pm to Dalosaqy
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Well, I know I'll get blasted here, but blacks (on average), have the lowest IQ of any ethnicity.
First of all, that is a fact.
Second of all, those tests are...."culturally biased"....
Posted on 4/19/14 at 1:32 pm to TeamLSU
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Hell, the damn traffic light was invented by a black man but that is not in the history books
damn, i was wondering why traffic lights were black...Hrmmm, they should be white. You know, to cool down the planet per Al Gore. Everything should be painted white.
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