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Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:27 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:32 pm to GreyReb
I still have one of the battle M flags. I think they're pretty cool
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:39 pm to GreyReb
And this is my favorite picture involving the battle M flag
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:40 pm to OBReb6
and now is mine.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:55 pm to cardboardboxer
This has been an informative and interesting thread.
Minus the race stuff, OM's fall from football grace reads a lot like Missouri's does.
Shitty facilities. Check.
Crappy admins. Check.
Dumb coaching hires. Check.
OM was probably more of a football power than Mizzou was back in the day, I wasn't around then to say one way or the other. However, our dark days sound eerily similar to your dark days.
Minus the race stuff, OM's fall from football grace reads a lot like Missouri's does.
Shitty facilities. Check.
Crappy admins. Check.
Dumb coaching hires. Check.
OM was probably more of a football power than Mizzou was back in the day, I wasn't around then to say one way or the other. However, our dark days sound eerily similar to your dark days.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 1:06 pm to Henry Jones Jr
quote:Don't count on it. It's amazing how thoroughly Bama dominates Ole Miss.
After we beat that elephant arse this year
Posted on 4/18/14 at 1:08 pm to Remote Controlled
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OM was probably more of a football power than Mizzou was back in the day
No probably about it, bud.
I like to believe our fall from grace is due to the split resources, but the ineffective leadership is the real key.
Best record of the Mississippi SEC teams
2007-2013
2013 - Ole Miss - 8-5
2012 - Mississippi State - 8-5
2011 - Mississippi State - 7-6
2010 - Mississippi State - 9-4
2009 - Ole Miss - 9-4
2008 - Ole Miss - 9-4
2007 - Mississippi State - 8-5
2007-2013 total - 58-33
2004-2006
2006 - Ole Miss - 4-8
2005 - Both - 3-8
2004 - Ole Miss - 4-7
2004-2006 total - 11-23
1997-2003
2003 - Ole Miss - 10-3
2002 - Ole Miss - 7-6
2001 - Ole Miss - 7-4
2000 - Mississippi State - 8-4
1999 - Mississippi State - 10-2
1998 - Mississippi State - 8-5
1997 - Ole Miss - 8-4
1997-2003 total - 60-28
Apparently it's cyclical. Either that or Croom and Orgeron sucked mad dick.
This post was edited on 4/18/14 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 4/18/14 at 1:14 pm to pankReb
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you can point to an exact, single event that was the major downfall of Ole Miss football.
That was when Vaught named his successor in Bob Tyler....Ole Miss chose to go with their buddy, Bruiser Kinard. Tyler ended up a few years later at MSU where he won a division title.
Wow I have never heard that story, thanks.
Also thanks for the thread recap Tornado Alley!
Posted on 4/18/14 at 1:21 pm to GreyReb
quote:Glad to get some backstory on this.
Freshmen year was 1996 and you didn't go to a home game without having 2 little confederate flags - one for you and one for your date. At the time, it just seemed normal. Looking back, idiotic as it gets. After Tubs called for it to quit, for a while we replaced those flags with a red flag with a navy block M with stars in it, just like the confederate flag almost. Crazy stupid.
I'm guessing shakers have replaced the letter M flags?
This post was edited on 4/18/14 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 4/18/14 at 1:29 pm to JBeam
Yes. And because we banned sticks in VHS to discourage Confederate flags inside the stadium, we have Pom poms with credit card sized holders. I don't think anyone else in America does this. I actually prefer it over a stick because it easily fits in the back pocket in my J.Crew slacks that I wear to games.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 1:38 pm to DingDongEddieStrong
I think Alabama & Auburn have the same issue.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 1:48 pm to DingDongEddieStrong
I always chew the plastic holder piece down to a nub because our team stresses me out so bad.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 1:52 pm to pankReb
My dad was on the outs with Ole Miss for a number of years. He and a number of other former Vaught players went to the school in the late 60's to tell them that they needed to get ahead of the curve on desegregation of the football team. Their stance was that signing really good black football players was the easiest way for the Ole Miss family to accept the fact that desegregation was inevitable.
The school basically told them to go away and don't let the door hit them on the way out. I think he didn't attend a single Ole Miss game or alumni event for the next 20 years or so.
The school basically told them to go away and don't let the door hit them on the way out. I think he didn't attend a single Ole Miss game or alumni event for the next 20 years or so.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 2:39 pm to OBReb6
If you pregame the right way in the Grove, you should never get nervous.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:13 pm to DingDongEddieStrong
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If you pregame the right way in the Grove, you should never get nervous.
So you're telling me I shouldn't get nervous after consuming, likely, at least two bloody marys, a couple of beers, and a copious amount of bourbon?
I don't think you're watching the game correctly.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:21 pm to DingDongEddieStrong
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If you pregame the right way in the Grove, you should never get nervous.
:kige:
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:30 pm to Tornado Alley
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He finished rank in his final five seasons at UK?
1946 = 7 wins overall and 2 in SEC
1947 = 8 wins overall and 2 in SEC
1948 = 5 wins overall and 1 in SEC
1949 = 9 wins overall and 4 in SEC
1950 = 11 wins overall and 5 in SEC(including the shocking win of OU)
1951 = 8 wins overall and 3 in SEC
1952 = 5 wins overall and 1 in SEC
1953 = 7 wins overall and 4 in SEC
Pretty sure he never beat the Vols in 8 seasons @ UK
While he had some winning seasons, it was enabled by OOC wins and not conference wins. Only 3 of 8 seasons with 4 or 5 conference wins and never when 6-0 or 7-0 in SEC play.
With only 1 SEC win in 1952 his seat may have gotten hot enough that unless he had another 1950 type season he was gone. If the Bear had beaten the Vols even once he may never have coached at Texas A&M.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 6:33 pm to pankReb
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we received a 2 million dollar gift yesterday at either the Oxford or Tupelo stop of the RRT. Names haven't been released yet.
That's great news.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 6:44 pm to anc
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5. Ole Miss had some craptastic leadership in the 70s, 80s and early 90s that allowed everyone else in the SEC to just pass them. Donald Zacharias coming to MSU and giving a damn and hiring Jackie got them off their asses.
There's so much truth to this statement it hurts. In a way, State and Sherrill are responsible for our rebound in the late 90's-present (sans the Orgeron years and Nutt's last two years)
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