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re: How would you feel about a commuter rail running through UGA campus?
Posted on 4/16/14 at 3:32 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Posted on 4/16/14 at 3:32 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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just walk from and back to the GA State station and get off at midtown
in the state I was in it was hard enough trying to get from the green lot to the orange lot. I'm not trying to mess aroudn with finding stations and paying for breeze passes, etc.
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 3:38 pm to WG_Dawg
Not a huge fan of MARTA. I like driving to the game and then tailgating but just in case you MARTA it up again that's what my friends and I do
Posted on 4/16/14 at 3:42 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Jefferson Dawg
Missed me. Didn't ya buddy.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 3:42 pm to Damn Good Dawg
I like using the marta train when I can, just didn't seem convenient last week.
how far a walk is it from the GA State station to the tailgate lots
how far a walk is it from the GA State station to the tailgate lots
Posted on 4/16/14 at 3:53 pm to WG_Dawg
It's like maybe 5-10 min from the Ted if you're just strolling. It's pretty close to the old holliday inn
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:13 pm to tylerdurden24
Light rail has NEVER been efficiant or cost effective just about everywhere it's been tried...It'll be a huge waste unless it's done with private funds (which will never happen)...looks good on paper though. 
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:31 pm to RD Dawg
I think the idea around it in Athens is that a.) it would increase the transportation flow, decrease all the shite about Athens city buses needing to be free, move tourists around to important areas of the city without them having to drive, etc. and b.) it would encourage development around the East Athens, river side of town.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:39 pm to tylerdurden24
Didn't Atlanta get a 200 million grant to build the Macon Atlanta high speed rail system 20 years ago and lost the money....
Posted on 4/17/14 at 7:39 pm to tylerdurden24
wouldn't diesel buses work as good here?...gwinnett employs buses that cart working people to atlanta and back and they stay full.
would be a lot cheaper (a problem with all of these mass transit projects) and move folks pretty fast...
would be a lot cheaper (a problem with all of these mass transit projects) and move folks pretty fast...
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:49 pm to tylerdurden24
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I think the idea around it in Athens is that a.) it would increase the transportation flow, decrease all the shite about Athens city buses needing to be free, move tourists around to important areas of the city without them having to drive, etc. and b.) it would encourage development around the East Athens, river side of town.
This doesn't make any sense to me.
A person will pay to park in a commuter lot which they have to drive their car to, then wait 8 minutes for the next train, then ride the train for 4 minutes into town, wherever a station is, then get off the train, and then have to walk to wherever their actual final destination is. Then do it all in reverse, to get back to their car in a commuter lot, let's say East Side Walmart, then drive home, and it also costs them money to ride, and this increases transportation flow? Decrease shite about buses being free? Move tourists around "important" areas of town? Like what, the Classic Center? Downtown? Stadium? That's all walking distance, and we have two decks.
I know you to be an intelligent individual, please explain what you are talking about.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:54 pm to tylerdurden24
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Fans would hop a train in fricking droves just because it's easy and they could pay less for a roundtrip ticket than they would spend on gas.
I don't think you've thought this through.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:59 pm to deeprig9
MARTA has its own problems, but they were never dealt a winning hand by the white flight crowd in the ATL. How the F do you expect a mass transit system to work, when none the trains can travel to major population centers outside the immediate urban environs?
The Cobb CTY baseball stadium is just going to be one major clusterfrick at least until it is finished, and I would bet that it will remain a major traffic suck afterward as well.
The Cobb CTY baseball stadium is just going to be one major clusterfrick at least until it is finished, and I would bet that it will remain a major traffic suck afterward as well.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 9:03 pm to SoGaFan
Thats bullshite. I know it is popular rhetoric, but it isnt true. Cobb County didnt want to pay taxes on something it didnt intend on using.
Eta- braves moving there is different scenario, and i agree with you on that.
Eta- braves moving there is different scenario, and i agree with you on that.
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 4/17/14 at 9:08 pm to deeprig9
I love public transportation. I wish our forefathers had constructed our cities and towns to resemble Europe's beautiful, walkable, transit-friendly paradises. Connecting people to people and culture. Public transportation can be a beautiful thing.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 9:14 pm to SoGaFan
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but they were never dealt a winning hand by the white flight crowd in the ATL
this is total bullshite...atlanta leaders wanted the white flight folks to pay for trains and buses that were never gonna go to anywhere but to the areas the atlanta city gub folks wanted it to go..the routes proposed in Gwinnett would have been horrible and cost millions for something very few folks here would use. The reason the express busses do so well is they actually serve a population who can afford it and is a convenience.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 9:15 pm to deeprig9
The way I understand it is that the train would be free to hop on and use (much like the UGA buses) and would travel from the Classic Center down to the Botannical Garden with stops at Mitchell St, Baldwin St, Sanford, Carlton St, Arts Center, Ramsey, Intramural Fields, Golf course, Softball/Soccer, and finally at the Botannical Garden. To further accommodate parking, they would build surface lots on the fields across the street from the Botannical Gardens (like the park-n-ride on Lexington, it too would be free).
This thing would get major use from the convention crowds, not to mention students in ECV who would opt to take the train downtown at night. For those who live around town and can't afford a $300+ UGA parking pass, it would also make for an easy solution to park near the botannical garden and ride the train to where you'd need to go.
This thing would get major use from the convention crowds, not to mention students in ECV who would opt to take the train downtown at night. For those who live around town and can't afford a $300+ UGA parking pass, it would also make for an easy solution to park near the botannical garden and ride the train to where you'd need to go.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 9:19 pm to tylerdurden24
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The way I understand it is that the train would be free to hop on and use (much like the UGA buses) and would travel from the Classic Center down to the Botannical Garden with stops at Mitchell St, Baldwin St, Sanford, Carlton St, Arts Center, Ramsey, Intramural Fields, Golf course, Softball/Soccer, and finally at the Botannical Garden. To further accommodate parking, they would build surface lots on the fields across the street from the Botannical Gardens (like the park-n-ride on Lexington, it too would be free).
This thing would get major use from the convention crowds, not to mention students in ECV who would opt to take the train downtown at night. For those who live around town and can't afford a $300+ UGA parking pass, it would also make for an easy solution to park near the botannical garden and ride the train to where you'd need to go.
Or pay $5 for the parking deck.
ETA...
Convention crowds don't give a shite about Ramsey or intramural fields. Maybe Botanical Gardens.
Convention crowds want to eat at The Grill and get drunk "somewhere widespread panic played back in the day".
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 4/17/14 at 9:23 pm to thomass
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I love public transportation. I wish our forefathers had constructed our cities and towns to resemble Europe's beautiful, walkable, transit-friendly paradises. Connecting people to people and culture. Public transportation can be a beautiful thing.
I do too... in Chicago and New York, where the public transportation was part of city planning from day one.
The problem is that you can't retrofit a city like Atlanta for that kind of public transportation, without damn near tearing the whole city down, and rebuilding it. I mean that literally.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 10:02 pm to deeprig9
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I do too... in Chicago and New York, where the public transportation was part of city planning from day one. The problem is that you can't retrofit a city like Atlanta for that kind of public transportation, without damn near tearing the whole city down, and rebuilding it. I mean that literally
I agree. Atlanta is the definition of sprawl. Personally, I think front lawns are overrated. Shared green space, with easy access to transit and shops, is more appealing (and waaaay more economically sustainable). I've never understood why people actively embrace an auto-centric lifestyle. I mean most Atlantans have to use their cars to literally go anywhere. Walking is just not feasible.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 10:12 pm to thomass
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I agree. Atlanta is the definition of sprawl. Personally, I think front lawns are overrated. Shared green space, with easy access to transit and shops, is more appealing (and waaaay more economically sustainable). I've never understood why people actively embrace an auto-centric lifestyle. I mean most Atlantans have to use their cars to literally go anywhere. Walking is just not feasible.
There's more to it than people deliberately embracing the "auto-centric" lifestyle.
If you want to work and make money, you work at X. But you can't afford to live next door to X. So you have to live at Y. Sure, if you are single, you can live anywhere you want. But once the wife and kids pop out, you don't have as many options on where to live. A cool hip trendy cabbage town place doesn't work. And even it if did, it's more expensive than a McMansion 35 minutes outside of town, and less night-walkers to worry about.
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