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re: Best offenses next season?
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:42 am to randomways
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:42 am to randomways
quote:Well since he has been successful running different styles and for several years it proves he isn't a one-trick pony. Plus since he has been running his offense in college for several years and coaches still haven't shut him down then it either means the other coaches are really stupid or Gus is at least as good of an offensive coach as they are defensive coaches.
but I honestly think Gus is basically a one-trick pony.
If Gus's offense was all about understanding it and then easily stopped then they would have completely figured him out by now and rival fans wouldn't still be saying "When they figure him out" year after year. If that's all there was to stopping offenses no one would ever score and no plays or formations that have been around for years would work.
quote:Claiming taking a 3-9 team to 12-2 and to the NCG wasn't impressive just proves your entire post was nothing more than butthurt.
Gus didn't impress me with his coaching and I felt he was lucky to finish the season the way he did.
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 2:35 am
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:23 am to Landmass
quote:Very much looking forward to your visit to TS stadium this fall.
We "took down" LSU last season. I'm sure we will do it again.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:51 am to Jon Ham
based on last year:
SCORING OFFENSE G TD XP 2XP DXP FG Saf Pts Avg
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1. Texas A&M........... 13 78 73 0 0 10 2 575 44.2
2. Auburn.............. 14 73 66 2 0 15 0 553 39.5
3. Missouri............ 14 71 66 1 0 18 0 548 39.1
4. Alabama............. 13 65 65 0 0 13 1 496 38.2
5. Georgia............. 13 58 57 0 0 24 0 477 36.7
6. LSU................. 13 61 60 0 0 13 0 465 35.8
7. South Carolina...... 13 57 54 1 0 15 0 443 34.1
8. Vanderbilt.......... 13 49 48 1 1 15 0 391 30.1
9. Ole Miss............ 13 49 44 1 0 16 1 390 30.0
10.Mississippi State... 13 48 40 1 0 10 0 360 27.7
11.Tennessee........... 12 35 34 0 0 14 0 286 23.8
12.Arkansas............ 12 30 29 0 0 13 0 248 20.7
13.Kentucky............ 12 30 28 0 0 12 1 246 20.5
14.Florida............. 12 27 24 1 0 12 1 226 18.8
What's most interesting? The only team among the top six in scoring offense not to lose their 2013 starting QB is Auburn. That sounds like a leg up on the competition for them.
SCORING OFFENSE G TD XP 2XP DXP FG Saf Pts Avg
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1. Texas A&M........... 13 78 73 0 0 10 2 575 44.2
2. Auburn.............. 14 73 66 2 0 15 0 553 39.5
3. Missouri............ 14 71 66 1 0 18 0 548 39.1
4. Alabama............. 13 65 65 0 0 13 1 496 38.2
5. Georgia............. 13 58 57 0 0 24 0 477 36.7
6. LSU................. 13 61 60 0 0 13 0 465 35.8
7. South Carolina...... 13 57 54 1 0 15 0 443 34.1
8. Vanderbilt.......... 13 49 48 1 1 15 0 391 30.1
9. Ole Miss............ 13 49 44 1 0 16 1 390 30.0
10.Mississippi State... 13 48 40 1 0 10 0 360 27.7
11.Tennessee........... 12 35 34 0 0 14 0 286 23.8
12.Arkansas............ 12 30 29 0 0 13 0 248 20.7
13.Kentucky............ 12 30 28 0 0 12 1 246 20.5
14.Florida............. 12 27 24 1 0 12 1 226 18.8
What's most interesting? The only team among the top six in scoring offense not to lose their 2013 starting QB is Auburn. That sounds like a leg up on the competition for them.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 6:50 am to molsusports
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What's most interesting? The only team among the top six in scoring offense not to lose their 2013 starting QB is Auburn. That sounds like a leg up on the competition for them.
And considering the QB is such an integral part of that offense, what you say makes perfect sense. Everybody was raving about Tre Mason last season (And he was definitely good) but I always thought Marshall is what made the offense go. He was the bigger key. Auburn will be fine this year offensively. I think A&M will still be up there in the top 4-5 but they will have a dropoff...slightly.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 6:54 am to Rabern57
I always laugh at the "one trick pony" comments on Gus. Its more an insult to the defenses that couldnt stop it more than anything else.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:09 am to Jon Ham
If we (Arkansas) can throw and catch the ball with at least average SEC capability, we will have a pretty tough offense.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:14 am to Dalosaqy
I bet you are. You are just gonna frick shite up, huh?
For real, TS does not seem to "scare" OM. Should be a good game...
For real, TS does not seem to "scare" OM. Should be a good game...
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:16 am to WonderWartHawg
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If we (Arkansas) can throw and catch the ball with at least average SEC capability, we will have a pretty tough offense.
Do you believe you can do this? How about enough to place top 3 or 4 in the SEC? Would love to hear some honest opinions instead of all the trolling and homerism that we typically see on here!
(I'm as guilty as anyone)
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:20 am to socraticsilence
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Is good, but really not much better (if any) than Taylor-- there's a reason Florida chose Kelvin of the two.
Florida's been on the money with their offensive talent evaluation the past few years.
(I do think Taylor is good, but not as good as Henry)
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:25 am to DawgsLife
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Would love to hear some honest opinions instead of all the trolling and homerism that we typically see on here!
Gus' offenses have never finished lower than 4th in any season in its perpsective conference. That will not change this season.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:15 am to parkjas2001
hmmmm since this is the rant..I'll go with my team.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:50 am to KSGamecock
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It's just like Oregon in 2010, ya'll have reached your ceiling. In three years Malzahn will be coaching the Cowboys.
So he gets an NFL job with the most famous team in the NFL in 2017 by getting his offense figured out way back in 2014 and having us finish in the bottom half of the SEC in offense?
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:00 am to Jon Ham
USCe, MSU, UGA, Auburn have the QB, RBs, WRs and system, to have an explosive offense.
TAMU, Mizzu, Ole Miss have the system to have an explosive offense. All QBs will be 3000+ yard passers.
Those are your early top seven with no particular order. Teams like UT and UF are sleeper top 7 of SEC.
All of the rest will really on run game early to establish a QB.
TAMU, Mizzu, Ole Miss have the system to have an explosive offense. All QBs will be 3000+ yard passers.
Those are your early top seven with no particular order. Teams like UT and UF are sleeper top 7 of SEC.
All of the rest will really on run game early to establish a QB.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:01 am to parkjas2001
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Gus' offenses have never finished lower than 4th in any season in its perpsective conference. That will not change this season.
Oh...I FULLY understand Auburn's confidence level. And agree they will be at or near the top. The ones I questioned would have been Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss State and Missouri.
Don't get me wrong...good teams and good offenses, but I am not sure they return enough to be in the top 3 or 4. I COULD be wrong, but I was wondering what everyone else really thought.
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 11:03 am
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:43 am to Crowknowsbest
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(I do think Taylor is good, but not as good as Henry)
Idk if I am more surprised at that absurd claim he made or the fact that alarm bells haven't been going off in Bama fans heads and a bunch of "WTF" posts haven't rained down.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:41 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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Yessem. Mason gets better at the deep ball and it's gravy. Plug and chug, baby.
He doesn't have the arm for it. He is really good at short/mid passes though. You'll see UGA running more of a 49ers West Coast style O with the uptempo dinking and dunking and Todd Gurleying.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:44 pm to socraticsilence
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Is good, but really not much better (if any) than Taylor-- there's a reason Florida chose Kelvin of the two.
You can't be serious? OH WAIT YOU'RE SERIOUS.
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:52 pm to Nicolae
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Nicolae
He has enough of an arm for it to be a viable threat. Not everyone needs a howitzer. A little refinement and it can at least be a viable enough of an option that teams have to respect it.
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ThatDude
Finally a Bama fan sees it
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:54 pm to socraticsilence
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Is good, but really not much better (if any) than Taylor-- there's a reason Florida chose Kelvin of the two.
While I agree there is not a huge gap between them in talent, Kelvin is very good, let's not pretend that the reason they took KT was anything other than because his dad is Fred Taylor. UF would have taken both in a heartbeat if they could have, but there was no chance they would fail to take Kelvin, even if they thought Henry was better.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:03 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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He has enough of an arm for it to be a viable threat. Not everyone needs a howitzer. A little refinement and it can at least be a viable enough of an option that teams have to respect it.
Yeah, he can throw it down-field, but it isn't his bread and butter. I'm just saying not to expect the down-field passing you saw under Greene, Stafford, and Murray. It'll be more like the offense under Shockley with tons of quick outs and slants and then a couple of deep shots once you've drawn the secondary in and can get guys loose deep.
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