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re: All You Trolls Who Believe Pinkel and Coaching Staff Protecting DGB
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:51 pm to the808bass
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:51 pm to the808bass
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Well this is new information. Where'd you find this champ?
No, it's about the oldest news there is of the DGB case. You're just in denial, or are in this shoot-out with little ammo in your guns:
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Sunday night, the victim and her roommate, also an 18-year-old female MU student, visited with the reporting officer at the police station and declined to press charges, saying they feared retaliation should Green-Beckham get arrested. The victim told police she was “afraid of the media and community backlash since Green-Beckham is a football player for the University of Missouri and is possibly going to the NFL draft soon.” The victim said she feared property damage to her apartment and “didn’t want to deal with the mental stress.” Both the victim and her roommate filled out decline of prosecution forms.
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:54 pm to the808bass
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I am interested in your sources inside the AD.
You're just full-on trolling now. Attaboy. Git it.
No. I'm not. Think about it. very little has NOT come out. Nothing changed. if it did tell me. Tell me what changed? you keep telling everybody they don't know as much about this as you do. Tell us all what YOU know that we do not know.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:57 pm to the808bass
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Ummm. What? I think the school did the right thing in kicking him out.
Congratulations.
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Is that what makes me a kool aid drinker?
If they had decided to keep him, you would have been all on board for that, too. THAT is what makes you a kool-aid drinker.
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What exactly was the major failing of the university here?
Trying to cover it up. Trying to talk witnesses into not pressing charges.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:58 pm to ConwayGamecock
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This has already been covered. It's because a female student-athlete was raped by UM FB players, tried to get help for it from UM officials, was instead ostracized, ridiculed, ultimately kicked off the team of her sport and out of UM, and ended up taking her own life...
Let's rehash this again.
This poor young lady sought help from mental health professionals to deal with a rape. Awful.
It has not been shown that at any time did she tell her coach or any other athletic personnel or University personnel (who weren't healthcare professionals) that she had been a victim of a rape.
The failures of the University in investigation and reporting are all unfortunately subsequent to her death. She wasn't "kicked off the team." She was allowed to withdraw as she was failing school and would have lost her scholarship.
Confine your criticism of the UM system to the facts and evidence and you'll find I'm a harsher critic than you could ever be of my alma later.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:58 pm to DawgsLife
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there is evidence of that, and the reason given was that she didn't want DGB to 'lose the only thing she had'.
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You are one naive person, you know that? you are incapable of critical thinking and logic analysis.
Here is my link reporting exactly that, out of the fairly damning police report. If you have a link supporting something else post it.
Otherwise STFU you stupid GA hayseed.
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:59 pm to ConwayGamecock
So you were conflating the rape case and the DGB case. Gotcha.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 12:59 pm to the808bass
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And she says she did not report it because of backlash. So...if you are intimidated not to report a rape, then it is ok?
Well this is new information. Where'd you find this champ?
Right here:
When police asked her why she did not want to press charges, she stated it was because “she was afraid of the media and community backlash since Green-Beckham is a football player for the University of Missouri and is possibly going to be in the NFL Draft soon.”
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Champ.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 1:00 pm to DawgsLife
Did you not read the word afraid? It's such a simple word.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 1:03 pm to MIZ_COU
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Here is my link reporting exactly that, out of the fairly damning police report. If you have a link supporting something else post it.
Otherwise STFU you stupid GA hayseed.
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I was responding to this:
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It's only speculation
You are correct. You made that up
More personal attacks. Are Missouri fans incapable of having an intelligent debate? or is their only defense personal attacks on anyone that disagrees with them?
Posted on 4/12/14 at 1:04 pm to DawgsLife
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If they had decided to keep him, you would have been all on board for that, too. THAT is what makes you a kool-aid drinker.
False. And that makes you an assumptive idiot. I called for Mike Dixon to be released. I called for Washington to be released. I'm more interested in running a university than a half-way house pseudo athletic department. Get out of here with your stupidity.
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Trying to cover it up. Trying to talk witnesses into not pressing charges.
There is conflicting evidence on this. In the end, the correct decision was made to release DGB. That means that the ultimate correct decision was made. If coaches were pressuring witnesses not to testify then they should be fired. Period. I have zero tolerance for that in a case of this importance. I noted the initial evidence of coaches' influence in a thread on the Missouri team board as the most troubling aspect of the texts. So yeah. I'm a kool aid drinker.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 1:05 pm to MIZ_COU
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Did you not read the word afraid? It's such a simple word.
Are you joking? He asked me where she said she was afraid of community backlash. I showed him where she said it. READ!
Posted on 4/12/14 at 1:06 pm to DawgsLife
Your statement seemed to indicate from my reading that Courey was afraid of reporting the rape because of community backlash. That would have been new information.
This post was edited on 4/12/14 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 4/12/14 at 1:07 pm to ConwayGamecock
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SECRant's Division of Investigative Reporting refuses to divulge it's sources for ANY of it's insider reporting. We refer you to the 1st Amendment of the Constitution....
I don't think you understand what that Amendment means
Posted on 4/12/14 at 1:08 pm to DawgsLife
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quote: It's only speculation You are correct. You made that up More personal attacks. Are Missouri fans incapable of having an intelligent debate?
So agreeing is a personal attack? You are aware that speculation and making it up mean pretty much the same thing right? As far as the intelligent debate part I'm wondering the same about you
This post was edited on 4/12/14 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 4/12/14 at 1:12 pm to MIZ_COU
quote:So from your own quote, she said she was afraid of backlash, as any 18 year old would be. Where is the part about she experienced backlash?
Are you joking? He asked me where she said she was afraid of community backlash. I showed him where she said it. READ!
Posted on 4/12/14 at 1:13 pm to the808bass
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False. And that makes you an assumptive idiot.
Personal attacks. Wow. Missouri fans are SO predictable. if you can't put forth facts, just attack the individual.
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If coaches were pressuring witnesses not to testify then they should be fired.
I can easily believe that this happened....OR, if I read it correctly she LATER said that DGB told her that the coaches told him it would be better for it to go away and he passed it on to her. I can believe that to be true, too. It is possible DBG represented it to his GF that way, and the coaches had nothing to do with it. Your coaching staff really does not strike me as the type to do that...so I would be willing to believe it was manufactured by Green.
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So yeah. I'm a kool aid drinker.
Actually, we all are when it comes to our favorite school. At least a little bit of a kool-aid drinker. I tend to believe and support Mark Richt totally. So I am as guilty of it as you are.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 1:16 pm to the808bass
quote:I am retired now but I don't need to ask. I helped write it. Lived it pretty much every day of work for 5 years, before and leading up to the April 14, 2003 implementation date for the Privacy part and beyond. They still use the NPP that I helped develop now with only minor changes.
Why don't you ask your employer about their HIPAA policy with regards to reporting rapes or sexual assaults to law enforcement and report back?
Posted on 4/12/14 at 1:18 pm to Diamondawg
So you all reported every suspected rape regardless of the patient's wishes to the police?
From the report to the University:
From the report to the University:
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Healthcare providers are generally prohibited from disclosing confidential information obtained from a patient, and we found no information that any healthcare provider disclosed the information regarding the assault to any MU officials outside of health care providers. The lack of disclosure by the healthcare providers does not violate Title IX or any other relevant law or regulation. It likewise does not violate any University policy.
This post was edited on 4/12/14 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 4/12/14 at 1:24 pm to the808bass
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Your statement seemed to indicate from my reading that Courey was afraid of reporting the rape because of community backlash. That would have been new information.
Oh. Sorry. My bad. Sometimes I don't make myself clear.
But, for some reason, I was thinking I had read that...but I have been reading so many articles on these incidences that I might have gotten them confused. I apologize for the confusion and possible mix up.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 1:27 pm to the808bass
Gotta go 808! I've enjoyed the debating/arguing....nothing personal meant on my part. I have no problem with U of M and think they do a LOT of things right! You guys have a good rest of the day!
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