re: SEC Network, the thread

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"expanded basic"

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I think expanded basic is more like what hotels and such use where you only get like 30 channels or so.

CGSC - this Chronicle article seems to contradict what SBD posted. Not sure who to believe as SBD may have jumped the gun or misunderstood or maybe the Chronicle did

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Comcast said SEC Network will be available beginning with its digital starter package in SEC states, including Texas, and on digital preferred and higher in areas outside the 11 states with SEC schools. Since many out-of-market sprots networks are relegated to special sports packages, the wider distribution patterns for SEC Network will provide significantly higher revenue for the conference, its schools and ESPN.

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I guess I'd ask before signing up

During the first two weeks prior to football season, SECN will air a number of classic games for each school. Gotta love that leading into our game with SC there will be 3 A&M games that day (though one starts at 2am and another at 4:30)

ALABAMA

2009 SEC Championship Game - Florida vs. Alabama (ALA 32, FLA 13) – Fri. 8/15 (2 a.m. ET)
2012 SEC Championship Game – Alabama vs. Georgia (ALA 32, UGA 28) – Fri. 8/15 (4 a.m. ET)
2013 Alabama at Texas A&M (ALA 49, TA&M 42) – Fri. 8/15 (6 a.m. ET)
2013 BCS National Championship – Alabama vs. Notre Dame (ALA 42, ND 14) – Fri. 8/15 (9 a.m. ET)
*Re-Airs Sun. 8/17 (1 a.m.)
2007 Arkansas at Alabama (ALA 41, ARK 38) – Sat. 8/16 (3 a.m. ET)
2010 BCS National Championship – Texas vs. Alabama (ALA 37, TEX 21) – Sat. 8/16 (7 p.m. ET)
2012 BCS National Championship – Alabama vs. LSU (ALA 21, LSU 0) – Sat. 8/16 (11 p.m. ET)

ARKANSAS

2001 Arkansas at Ole Miss (ARK 58, MISS 56) – Sun. 8/24 (10 p.m. ET)
2007 Arkansas at LSU (ARK 50, LSU 48) – Mon. 8/25 (1 a.m. ET)
2006 Tennessee at Arkansas (ARK 31, TENN 14) – Mon. 8/25 (3 a.m. ET)
2007 South Carolina at Arkansas (ARK 48, SC 36) – Mon. 8/25 (5:30 a.m. ET)
2010 LSU at Arkansas (ARK 31, LSU 23) – Mon. 8/25 (8 a.m. ET)

AUBURN

2011 BCS National Championship – Oregon vs. Auburn (AUB 22, ORE 19) – Sat. 8/16 (9 p.m. ET)
*Re-Airs Fri. 8/22 (4 a.m.)
2010 Auburn at Alabama (AUB 28, ALA 27) – Sun. 8/17 (3 p.m. ET)
2013 Georgia at Auburn (AUB 43, UGA 38) – Fri. 8/22 (1 a.m. ET)
2013 Alabama at Auburn (AUB 34, ALA 28) – Fri. 8/22 (12 p.m. ET)

FLORIDA

2007 Fiesta Bowl – Florida vs. Ohio State (FLA 41, OSU 14) – Sat. 8/16 (11 a.m. ET)
*Re-Airs Sat. 8/23 (1 a.m.)
2009 BCS National Championship – Florida vs. Oklahoma (FLA 24, OKLA 14) – Sat. 8/16 (5 p.m. ET)
*Re-Airs Sat. 8/23 (6 a.m.)
1997 Sugar Bowl – Florida vs. Florida State (FLA 52, FSU 20) – Sun. 8/17 (11 a.m. ET)
2008 SEC Championship Game – Alabama vs. Florida (FLA 31, ALA 20) – Sun. 8/17 (7 p.m. ET)
*Re-Airs Sat. 8/23 (12 p.m.)
2006 SEC Championship Game – Arkansas vs. Florida (FLA 38, ARK 28) – Sat. 8/23 (3:30 a.m. ET)

GEORGIA

2007 Auburn at Georgia (UGA 45, AUB 20) – Fri. 8/15 (11 p.m. ET)
2013 LSU at Georgia (UGA 41, LSU 38) – Sat. 8/16 (1 a.m. ET)
2007 Georgia vs. Florida (UGA 42, FLA 30) – Sat. 8/16 (5 a.m. ET)
1980 South Carolina at Georgia (UGA 13, SC 10) – Sun. 8/17 (10 p.m. ET)

KENTUCKY

2007 LSU at Kentucky (UK 43, LSU 37) – Thurs. 8/21 (1 a.m. ET)
2010 South Carolina at Kentucky (UK 31, SC 28) – Thurs. 8/21 (3 a.m. ET)
2009 Kentucky at Georgia (UK 34, UGA 27) – Thurs. 8/21 (5:30 a.m. ET)
2007 Louisville at Kentucky (UK 40, UL 34) – Thurs. 8/21 (12 p.m. ET)

LSU

2004 Sugar Bowl – LSU vs. Oklahoma (LSU 21, OKLA 14) – Sat. 8/16 (9 a.m. ET)
2008 BCS National Championship – LSU vs. Ohio State (LSU 38, OSU 24) – Sat. 8/16 (3 p.m. ET)
*Re-Airs Sun. 8/24 (8 a.m.)
2007 Florida at LSU (LSU 28, FLA 24) – Sun. 8/24 (1 a.m. ET)
2007 Auburn at LSU (LSU 30, AUB 24) – Sun. 8/24 (3:30 a.m. ET)
2011 LSU at Alabama (LSU 9, ALA 6) – Sun. 8/24 (6 a.m. ET)

OLE MISS

2008 Ole Miss at Florida (MISS 31, FLA 30) – Tues. 8/19 (1:30 a.m. ET)
2002 Florida at Ole Miss (MISS 17, FLA 14) – Tues. 8/19 (3:30 a.m. ET)
2003 Ole Miss at Auburn (MISS 24, AUB 20) – Tues. 8/19 (6 a.m. ET)
2013 LSU at Ole Miss (MISS 27, LSU 24) – Tues. 8/19 (12 p.m. ET)

MISSISSIPPI STATE

2010 Georgia at Mississippi State (MSU 24, UGA 12) – Mon. 8/18 (1 a.m. ET)
2009 Ole Miss at Mississippi State (MSU 41, MISS 27) – Mon. 8/18 (3 a.m. ET)
2013 Ole Miss at Mississippi State (MSU 17, MISS 10) – Mon. 8/18 (5 a.m. ET)
2011 Gator Bowl – Mississippi State vs. Michigan (MSU 52, MICH 14) – Mon. 8/18 (7 a.m. ET)

MISSOURI

2005 Independence Bowl – South Carolina vs. Missouri (MIZZ 38, SC 31) – Tues. 8/26 (1 a.m. ET)
2007 Missouri vs. Kansas (MIZZ 36, KU 28) – Tues. 8/26 (3 a.m. ET)
2010 Oklahoma at Missouri (MIZZ 36, OKLA 27) – Tues. 8/26 (5:30 a.m. ET)
2012 Missouri at Tennessee (MIZZ 51, TENN 48) – Tues. 8/26 (12 p.m. ET)

SOUTH CAROLINA

2010 Alabama at South Carolina (SC 35, ALA 21) – Wed. 8/27 (1 a.m. ET)
2012 Georgia at South Carolina (SC 35, UGA 7) – Wed. 8/27 (3 a.m. ET)
2010 South Carolina at Florida (SC 36, FLA 14) – Wed. 8/27 (5:30 a.m. ET)
2013 South Carolina at Missouri (SC 27, MIZZ 24) – Wed. 8/27 (12 p.m. ET)

TENNESSEE

1999 Fiesta Bowl – Florida State vs. Tennessee (TENN 23, FSU 16) – Sat. 8/16 (7 a.m. ET)
2004 Florida at Tennessee (TENN 30, FLA 28) – Wed. 8/20 (1 a.m. ET)
2005 Tennessee at LSU (TENN 30, LSU 27) – Wed. 8/20 (3 a.m. ET)
2013 South Carolina at Tennessee (TENN 23, SC 21) – Wed. 8/20 (5:30 a.m. ET)
2007 Tennessee at Kentucky (TENN 54, UK 52) – Wed. 8/20 (12 p.m. ET)

TEXAS A&M

2012 Texas A&M at Alabama (TA&M 29, ALA 24) – Sun. 8/17 (5 p.m. ET)
*Re-Airs Thurs. 8/28 (1 a.m.)
2012 Texas A&M at Ole Miss (TA&M 30, MISS 27) – Thurs. 8/28 (3 a.m. ET)
2012 Texas A&M at Mississippi State (TA&M 38, MSU 13) – Thurs. 8/28 (5:30 a.m. ET)
2013 Chick-fil-A Bowl – Duke vs. Texas A&M (TA&M 52, DUKE 48) – Thurs. 8/28 (12 p.m. ET)

VANDERBILT

2013 Georgia at Vanderbilt (VAN 31, UGA 27) – Sun. 8/17 (3 a.m. ET)
2008 Auburn at Vanderbilt (VAN 14, AUB 13) – Sun. 8/17 (5 a.m. ET)
2006 Vanderbilt at Georgia (VAN 24, UGA 22) – Sun. 8/17 (7 a.m. ET)
2012 Tennessee at Vanderbilt (VAN 41, TENN 18) – Sun. 8/17 (9 a.m. ET)

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How much is Dish if TWC doesn't get the SEC network?

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No need

TWC announces they will carry SECN

Chronicle article on TWC add

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Time Warner is the largest cable carrier in Texas, with systems in Dallas, Waco, Austin, San Antonio, El Paso, Corpus Christi, Beaumont, Corpus Christi and the Rio Grande Valley.

A spokeswoman said SEC Network will be available on Time Warner’s digital standard and digital preferred service tiers. Channel numbers will be 384 in Austin/Central Texas and San Antonio, 912/913 in Dallas, 334 and 1334 in Beaumont-Port Arthur, Vidor, El Paso, Winnie, Corpus Christi, Laredo, the Rio Grande Valley, Alice, Beeville and Harlingen.

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And just for some random, the LA Times article

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In Los Angeles, the SEC Network will be available on Channel 361 in high definition and 279 in standard definition. The channel is being offered on Time Warner's "Preferred TV" package, which means most homes will get it.

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Doesn't sound like even outside of footprint it's on the sports package. Not familiar but it looks like in order to get ESPN2, FS1, NFLN and others in HD you need Digital Preferred.

goddamn this is going to be in so many homes right off the bat

no matter what, your situation will be better than having suddenlink

hell if it really is $1.40 for in market on Comcast, that sure as shite aint a discount

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hell if it really is $1.40 for in market on Comcast, that sure as shite aint a discount

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The $1.40 was the quoted rate card. ie, list price. Without seeing the contract it's impossible to know if Comcast agreed to $1.40 or $1.00. I'm sure it will eventually leak but my guess given the timing of it and who has the leverage, is that it's closer to $1.40 than $1.00.

I also think that logically carriage would be a lot slower if they were discounting simply because even if you settled with someone else, you'd keep fighting to get close to the rate card price with others.

The funny thing is reading Hurtlocker try to project how much games on the SECN are going to be worth based on how much CBS pays for their first pick. The situations are completely different. Those CBS games are at a huge discount relative to their worth if a new contract was being negotiated. And even when the contract was originally signed, you could argue that the SEC gave a significant discount to achieve greater exposure. Not to mention that the CBS deal is a flat rights fee, and not a split of profits (or revenue), as the SECN will reportedly be.

And man... they worship them some HL over there. He's a smart guy, but I remember debating w/ him on the WVU Scout board long ago, when he was claiming that Slive would be thrilled w/ schools getting $1-$2M a year from the SECN.