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Thoughts on Variable Deferred Annuity

Posted on 9/13/13 at 11:38 am
Posted by Crimson4ever1
Hermitage, TN
Member since Jul 2013
3 posts
Posted on 9/13/13 at 11:38 am
I am new here but was wondering what everyone thought about variable deferred annuity. I was thinking about rolling my pension over to an annuity. Thanks for any comments...
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17302 posts
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:40 pm to
The only people that I have seen that liked annuities are the people that sell them


that being said, I am sure there are situations where they are beneficial, but they are few and far between
Posted by Cmlsu5618
Destin, FL
Member since Sep 2010
3763 posts
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:41 pm to
This is not the best place to get this type of advice. You need to have an in depth review of your goals for the money before you make any moves with an advisor.

Things to focus on:

1) Time frame and liquidity for the assets
2) Goals (do you already have/need guaranteed income in retirement at this point in your life)
3) Returns inside pension vs. variable annutiy vs. tax deferred retirement account.

I'm going to stop here... There's a lot of things to consider and this deserves a thorough, professional evaluation, especially if you had been working with the company that holds the pension for a long period of time.
Posted by RebelOP
Misty Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2013
12478 posts
Posted on 9/13/13 at 1:51 pm to
They give you good options for income during retirement. But I wouldn't put ALL my money in them. I'd be careful who you choose to go with because you want to make sure they are financially strong.

#1 - Look at the insurance company's financial strength rating by ALL the rating companies, not just a couple.

#2 - Compare the annuity fee's to the average mutual fund fee's. There are a couple of companies I've seen who are very comparable to the mutual fund fee's for their annuity product.

#3 - Make sure whoever you talk to understands your situation completely.

These are just a few things I thought of initially. Hope this somewhat helps!
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 9/13/13 at 2:59 pm to
Ask your adviser that is trying to sell you the annuity where the insurance company is investing your money. Do a little research and you might be shocked.

If you decide to go forward, make sure the company is very highly rated. Also, do a little research on the companies that were exiting this business.

It is never a good idea to put all your money in just one investment.
Posted by GeauxHome
Member since Feb 2008
135 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:20 am to
It depends on what your benefit is through the pension. Look at that. then, look at what the monthly benefit of a large insurance company like Lincoln or Prudential would be for investing the lump sum you're thinking about pledging to an annuity. The benefit of rolling over is it will give you pension like income for you and your spouse for both of your lives with a death benefit for your heirs. The company pension won't give a DB to your heirs. My initial thoughts, but I'd have more if I knew more about the situation.
Posted by Dr Rosenrosen
Member since May 2006
3365 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 4:03 pm to
IMO the VA only makes sense if it's non-qualified. You can roll the pension into an IRA and enjoy the same tax shelter without the high fees of the VA.
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 4:05 pm
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