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Grantland.com on 1978 season/1979 Sugar Bowl

Posted on 6/18/13 at 10:43 am
Posted by sbrian3915
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 10:43 am
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I have always felt that the epic nature of the 1979 Sugar Bowl has clouded the split nature of this particular National Championship for Alabama. Everyone remembers the '79 Sugar Bowl whereas the '79 Rose Bowl was just another bowl game. I also wonder how much of an effect Alabama backing up their 1978 championship season with a title the next season had on solidifying them as the accepted champions of 1978.

On the other hand, it would have been pretty hypocritical for the AP to award the NC to USC because the very same logic that they used to give the title to Notre Dame the prior year dictated a title for Alabama.

Can you imagine if this scenario had happened 25 years later, where Alabama is awarded the title over USC despite losing the head to head that very season? ESPN just might have self destructed on a massive overload of outrage.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 10:46 am to
Wasn't born yet.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 10:52 am to
Alabama did lose to USC, but USC lost to unranked Arizona State.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:01 am to
1966 Bama finished as the only undefeated, untied team.

ND played for a tie and the AP gave them the title.
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:02 am to
Dear Author:

SANDUSKY.

Sincerely, the 1979 National Champions.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:07 am to
Meh...in 1983 Auburn won the Sugar Bowl ranked #3...#1 and #2 lost but AU wasn't awarded thier trophy.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:10 am to
1977 Bama beat Ole Miss by 20 Notre Dame lost to Ole Miss 20-13 yet ND rose from 12th to first even though Bamas only loss was at Nebraska 31-24 with 5 turnovers. Bama also playd USC and a top 20 Mizzou OOC .

Shafted 77 and 66
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:10 am to
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Dear Author:

SANDUSKY.

Sincerely, the 1979 National Champions.


If you get to use this, then UGA does too for the '83 Sugar. frickin' Todd Blackledge...
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:11 am to
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1983 Auburn won the Sugar Bowl ranked #3

1984

UGA played the 81, 82, and 83 Sugar Bowls
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:12 am to
I go by seasons...as does the trophy
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:18 am to
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1966 Bama finished as the only undefeated, untied team.

ND played for a tie and the AP gave them the title.



Oh, so finishing undefeated and untied matters for '66...
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:19 am to
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Oh, so finishing undefeated and untied matters for '66...


10 more pages
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:36 am to
Alabama won the AP national championship in 1978 and 1979. People just gonna have to deal with it.
Posted by Beer Bryant
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:40 am to
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ND played for a tie and the AP gave them the title.


Didn't play in a Bowl game either, while Bama blasted Nebraska. That's why I claim the 1973 title.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:42 am to
quote:

Oh, so finishing undefeated and untied matters for '66...

No actually it doesn't. Bama doesn't claim it.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:45 am to
Actually, the best team in 1978 may have been Oklahoma.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43773 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:48 am to
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Didn't play in a Bowl game either, while Bama blasted Nebraska. That's why I claim the 1973 title.



So... when Bama is blasted in a bowl game by a team that the only untied, unbeaten team blasted... Bama still claims a title.

Nice double standard you guys have going on there.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:48 am to
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ND played for a tie and the AP gave them the title.



yes, but that tie was against the #2 team.

case closed.
This post was edited on 6/18/13 at 11:49 am
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:52 am to
ONLY UNDEFEATED TEAM IN THE REGULAR SEASON ....NO POLLS TAKEN AFTER THE BOWLS IN 1966......HELLO , IS ANYBODY OUT THERE ?

DAMN
Posted by sbrian3915
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2011
648 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:52 am to
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Alabama did lose to USC, but USC lost to unranked Arizona State.


That argument worked in 1978. If the same thing had happened in 2008 for a slot in the BCS Championship Game, the screaming would be so loud it could be heard from Pluto.
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