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re: Thoughts on the College World Series after 1st round.

Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:56 pm to
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heartbreakTiger
Quit whining and go buy your team some wooden bats if you don't like the "dead" ones
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:00 pm to
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It's weird that the game completely changes at the World Series because the HR is taken away, would you not agree?
That and it also does nothing to advance the popularity of the game. I like pitchers duels more than anything - but I don't like 2-1 games where the pitchers aren't throwing all that well but continually get bailed out by the bats and the park. That's boring baseball.

An example - when Nola pitched against Gray in game 1 of the Supers, we won 2-0 and no one scored til the 8th. It was the definition of a pitchers duel, with both guys making good hitters look foolish all night. It was edge-of-your-seat baseball.

Last night, a 2-1 game, Nola and Plutko were clearly not having great games. Both made mistake after mistake, but were bailed out all night long by the conditions. Even though it's my alma mater in the CWS, I was bored out of my mind for the first half of the game. What do you think the casual fan thinks of that?
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 1:03 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150304 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:01 pm to
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- My pick to win it all, UCLA (check my earlier post) got by that all important 1st round.

if we had some bats to rely on id agree. the only thing that is in our favor is that the new bats and the large stadium tend to advantage teams who play small ball.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:04 pm to
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Posted by Hardy_Har quote: Happy for MSU, but that last out should have been gone. It's a weird game.... It wasn't hit far enough... What's so weird about that?


Apparently people didn't see the two Wes Rea hits go the same spot in center field and left field. They were just as lucky we didn't have two HR's as we are lucky they didn't have one.

And shite is just falling in place for the Dawgs. Could be our year. Especially if we are still undefeated after IU
Posted by CayceCock13
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:06 pm to
Pitching, defense, & small ball will win the tourney.

Was surprised in the Indiana upset in that I didn't they had the pitching to compete in the CWS, but they've proved me wrong so far & are pitching the BIG Pitcher of the Year tonight against MSU.

I thought UCLA would give LSU the most trouble in their bracket b/c of their stout pitching, with that said LSU has the team to come back from the losers bracket.

Wasn't surprised in the NC State outcome, I thought whoever won our super would go 0-2 & BBQ in Omaha, UNC is just has not been very good this postseason.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:24 pm to
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it plays to bitch baseball when we crush 3 balls that should leave the yard and only one goes out.

baseball shouldn't be retarded sacrifice bunting every single inning. Baseball isnt a homer a inning like it was in 97 but it isn't bunting every inning like west coast teams do. baseball should have a balance and it doesn't have that right now. its watered down boring bullshite for the most part when balls that are crushed aren't leaving the yard. The park would probably be ok if we didn't have a dead ball and dead bats. once the ball changes the game will actually be baseball instead of baby back bitch ball like dick suckers like ucla play with their gay arse trick plays like its a little league game


without a doubt, the best part of baseball is to hear the whining from the losing team. I didn't bother watching the game yesterday, but did they move the fence back every time LSU came up to bat? Does UCLA get to use different bats than LSU? Is sacrifice bunting only allowed in Omaha?
Posted by AsphaltFunk
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:25 pm to
In the beginning of baseball home runs were rare. The liveliness of the ball was nonexistent and the outfield was typically big. Players were discouraged from hitting them because it would more than likely be a fly out. Baseball was technical and an art. Smart players and teams were rewarded. Home runs were meant to be special and not an every game occurrence. This is baseball at its roots. This is how it was meant to be played. Football score baseball games are the ones that blow dick. Just because you have a lineup of cornbread fed beasts shouldnt automatically make you the winner.
Posted by EvilVodka
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:29 pm to
we gone
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:43 pm to
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I didn't bother watching the game yesterday, but did they move the fence back every time LSU came up to bat? Does UCLA get to use different bats than LSU? Is sacrifice bunting only allowed in Omaha?

I love when people think this is some type of great point. The park was designed when the previous bats were in use. Its dimensions, at that time, made much more sense. I think it's fair to say that the field of play shouldn't be completely changed on the championship stage. It takes the homerun almost completely out of the game plan.

LSU didn't benefit from it last night but in the future they might. That doesn't mean that it makes any sense for the national championship to be played on a field that is very different from almost every college baseball stadium's.
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
15007 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:53 pm to
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In the beginning of baseball home runs were rare. The liveliness of the ball was nonexistent and the outfield was typically big. Players were discouraged from hitting them because it would more than likely be a fly out. Baseball was technical and an art. Smart players and teams were rewarded. Home runs were meant to be special and not an every game occurrence. This is baseball at its roots. This is how it was meant to be played
Excellent, I assume you want to go back before the shot clock and do away with the 3-point line? And not count touchdowns as 6 points, but instead only as zero and only as a means to get to attempt the coveted extra-point?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38645 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:54 pm to
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That doesn't mean that it makes any sense for the national championship to be played on a field that is very different from almost every college baseball stadium's.
Been that way for 65 years.
Posted by Tigah32
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
5721 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:55 pm to
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You need more Beaudreax's Butt Paste

We have the favored bullpen in this tournament.
It's not that bad of a post and if the winds not blowing in you're in the losers bracket.
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4338 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:57 pm to
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It's not that bad of a post and if the winds not blowing in you're in the losers bracket.


Pretty fun to negate the two would be homeruns by Wes Rea.
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17667 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:00 pm to
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Been that way for 65 years.
TD Ameritrade is facing the opposite way than Rosenblatt did. Rosenblatt typically had outblowing winds. The deadened bats and primarily inblowing winds make comparing the two apples to oranges.
Posted by AsphaltFunk
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:04 pm to
And I assume your arse is still sore from last night
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17667 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:09 pm to
I guess you can't admit that he made a good point.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 2:10 pm
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38645 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:11 pm to
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TD Ameritrade is facing the opposite way than Rosenblatt did. Rosenblatt typically had outblowing winds. The deadened bats and primarily inblowing winds make comparing the two apples to oranges.

I know all of that but he only mentioned the dimensions. Here is a thought - both teams have to play with the hands they are dealt. Maybe your coach should figure out how far your hitters can hit the ball and those that can't reach the fence, adjust your swings accordingly and hit line drives instead of fly balls. It's almost like that stupid bowl game a few years back that had the screwed up turf and it's as if y'all had to play on it but the other team (Penn State???) didn't.
Posted by AsphaltFunk
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:12 pm to
All the points he made were about changes to how points were earned in other sports. The rules have always been the same in baseball. Im sorry if it is just a bit harder to earn them.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:16 pm to
if we had some bats to rely on id agree. the only thing that is in our favor is that the new bats and the large stadium tend to advantage teams who play small ball.

And that is exactly why I picked a long shot like UCLA. However, for the sake of full disclosure I didn't feel strongly enough to put money on it.
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17667 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:25 pm to
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I know all of that but he only mentioned the dimensions.
Right, which is a very incomplete comparison that was narrowly tailored to fit a preferred narrative.
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Here is a thought - both teams have to play with the hands they are dealt.
You don't say?
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Maybe your coach should figure out how far your hitters can hit the ball and those that can't reach the fence, adjust your swings accordingly and hit line drives instead of fly balls
I bet the thought hasn't crossed his mind. I'll shoot him an email.
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It's almost like that stupid bowl game a few years back that had the screwed up turf and it's as if y'all had to play on it but the other team (Penn State???) didn't.
What? No one suggested that, but it's a fun strawman to knock down I guess. A muddy field will of course adversely affect a faster team more. It's not rocket surgery.

No one has ever said that UCLA didn't play on the same field. I'm not sure why that strawman keeps being put up.

The issue is whether the baseball national championship should be played on a field that hasn't allowed a center field home run in four years of the best teams in baseball playing on it. That's a legitimate topic for discussion. I should have known that it would have no place on the SEC Rant.

Mississippi State may have benefitted from the park, LSU did not last night. There will be times in the future that LSU will benefit, I'm sure.

I think that people should be able to put aside their team allegiances and discuss whether it's what is best for the game in an objective manner. Doesn't seem hard.
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