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Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:52 am to antibarner
We certainly have a stellar QB.
And it would suck if he was injured.
But anyone who characterizes this squad as a one-man team is greatly misinformed.
Or wishing.
And it would suck if he was injured.
But anyone who characterizes this squad as a one-man team is greatly misinformed.
Or wishing.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:54 am to EKG
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We certainly have a stellar QB.
And it would suck if he was injured.
But anyone who characterizes this squad as a one-man team is greatly misinformed.
Or wishing.
Might as well get used to it. We heard the same shite in 2010 with Cam.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:57 am to antibarner
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STRICTLY a one trick pony. Let Manziel tweak an ankle and they're a three loss team,whereas Alabama could survive the same to Mc Carron and get by playing defense and running the football.
Johnny Manziel is special no doubt about that. But the Ags are like Auburn a few years back..one man team.
The box scores agree/disagree.
Ole Miss: 125 yards rushing, 3.7 yards/carry
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Texas A&M: 122 yards rushing, 3.9 yards/carry
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LSU: 166 yards rushing, 6.6 yards/carry
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Georgia: 350 yards rushing, 6.9 yards/carry
From these stats, I believe Alabama could've beaten LSU and Georgia without McCarron; however, he was your best quarterback and was picked off twice agaisnt A&M. Would the backup have been able to connect deep against the A&M secondary? Could the backup light up a tough Ole Miss team's secondary? We'll never definitively know, but Blake Sims did not look good in the Spring Game. I'm doubtful.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:58 am to antibarner
Cold hard truth: the only program in the SEC that has built-in advantages that A&M does not have is LSU.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:00 am to antibarner
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:00 am to Gardevoir
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From these stats, I believe Alabama could've beaten LSU and Georgia without McCarron
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:15 am to Politiceaux
^ Alabama ran the ball successfully to the tune of 6.6 and 6.9 yards per carry against LSU and Georgia. They only had 25 rushing attempts against LSU which explains the low total yardage. If you double their rushing attempts (and give them Jalston Fowler), LSU is blown out on their home field.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:16 am to Gardevoir
quote:Seems legit. Why didn't Saban think of that?
^ Alabama ran the ball successfully to the tune of 6.6 and 6.9 yards per carry against LSU and Georgia. They only had 25 rushing attempts against LSU which explains the low total yardage. If you double their rushing attempts (and give them Jalston Fowler), LSU is blown out on their home field.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:17 am to Dr RC
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:17 am to Gardevoir
The OP has no clue what Sumlin has done in the last few years with average QBs.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:18 am to Politiceaux
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Seems legit. Why didn't Saban think of that?
Maybe because he isn't perfect, and Alabama was breaking in a new offensive coordinator who hadn't learned to run the ball.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:21 am to Gardevoir
Hard to run the ball when your team is behind the whole game against the Ags. Bama allowed 6 points in the first quarter ALL season until the Aggie gabe (20 points 1st quarter). McCarron hadn't thrown a pick in 280 attempts (+_) yet was picked off 3 times by the Aggies (1 was called back). The Aggie defense had as much to do with the win as JFF and the offense.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:24 am to Gardevoir
quote:Do you honestly think if John Chavis didn't have to try to account for McCarron that Alabama would have had as much success running the ball? I really can't tell if you're trolling or ignorant.
Maybe because he isn't perfect, and Alabama was breaking in a new offensive coordinator who hadn't learned to run the ball.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:26 am to BigD Ag
12/10
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:29 am to antibarner
Prior to last year, Mizzou had been 5-1 in its last 6 meetings with the Aggies, including winning 3 of 4 trips to College Station. Make of that what you will.
That said, the Bulls would have sucked without Michael Jordan and the Heat would not be very good without Lebron. So what. One player can make a mountain of difference and in this case it did. Fair enough. That's what competitive sports are about.
That said, the Bulls would have sucked without Michael Jordan and the Heat would not be very good without Lebron. So what. One player can make a mountain of difference and in this case it did. Fair enough. That's what competitive sports are about.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:30 am to BAMAisDIESEL09
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good lawd manziel is an ugly mo fo
If both of them take the jerseys off he suddenly looks a LOT better in comparison.
But yeah, he's ugly. And a douche. And if he gets injured A&M is screwed. Did I miss anything?
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:33 am to Gardevoir
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Alabama ran the ball successfully to the tune of 6.6 and 6.9 yards per carry against LSU and Georgia. They only had 25 rushing attempts against LSU which explains the low total yardage. If you double their rushing attempts (and give them Jalston Fowler), LSU is blown out on their home field.
The reason teams like Alabama can rush the ball so well (other than talent) is because they still make teams respect the pass with play action. It's argument in fallacy to just say that Alabama can lose their QB and become some one dimensional rushing team and think they will be just as successful.
The OP is dead wrong about his assumption that losing McCarron wouldn't hurt as much as losing Manziel. JFF certainly adds another dimension, but both teams are dependent on a capable passer to fully exploit the potential of their respective offenses.
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:34 am to finestfirst79
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:39 am to Politiceaux
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Do you honestly think if John Chavis didn't have to try to account for McCarron that Alabama would have had as much success running the ball? I really can't tell if you're trolling or ignorant.
Gump line of thinking on this issue is pretty common. Alabama had a ridiculous number of running plays under 2 yards against A&M, but since one RB was averaging a certain number, running the ball every time in the red zone, when the defense is expecting the run, and HAD JUST STUFFED THE RUN THE PREVIOUS PLAY, before McCarron threw his second pick... things would have been different, right?
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